Being real upset that he’s trying to oust incumbents who refuse to do anything.

What you are saying sounds bad. But when I read your actual link, it does not sound bad at all.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2026-election/david-hogg-disrupts-democratic-party-rcna202202

[“Let me be unequivocal: No DNC officer should ever attempt to influence the outcome of a primary election, whether on behalf of an incumbent or a challenger,” DNC Chair Ken Martin said on a media call. "Voters should decide who our primary nominees are, not DNC leadership.]

I don’t like Ken Martin and I think Hogg is great, but what Martin is saying here are the precise words that every DNC chairman should be saying. I would not want Martin to change one single word of that statement.

democrats are controlled opposition

So the people in control want to raise taxes on billionaires and/or corporations like the last 3 Dem presidents did? I don’t think so.

We need time to build a leftist party

There have been such attempts over the previous 120 years. They were all failures because of structural reasons.

or to fundamentally change the Democratic party

Yes that would be fantastic and definitely needs to happen. And it will happen sooner or later. The problem is that we need much more “sooner” and much less “later”. We only have so many years to live.

Stop giving the DNC money.

Nobody here gives the DNC any money. I agree that would be stupid because there are much better choices. Most of us don’t give much money to politicians and usually only to a specific candidate. But if I was going to right now, I would funnel that money thru people like Sanders or AOC or Hoggs.

How about we finally start working towards a 3rd party?

What do you mean “finally”? People have been trying that over and over and failing for over 100 years. It would be great to have a multiparty system, but there are unintended structural forces in place that will always prevent that. None of us alive today created this system. We are all stuck with it just like you. But ignoring reality just makes someone into a lifetime loser. There is nothing you can gain by making yourself into a lifetime loser.

You do realize the meanings of words are easily found in the dictionary right?

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/leftist

leftist

noun

1. a person whose political position is liberal or radical; member of the left

adjective

2. liberal or radical

You should learn what the word liberal actually means.

Yes you should.

[Used politically, it means “a person who believes that government should be active in supporting social and political change.”]

https://www.merriam-webster.com/wordplay/liberal-meaning-origin-history

[Indeed, Hogg’s PAC, Leaders We Deserve, recently announced an initiative to fund young primary challengers in Democratic races.]

Hey that is pretty cool. We need lots more people like Hogg and AOC and Sanders.

We’ve voted blue no matter who for decades and look where it got us.

30 million more people with health insurance? Raising taxes on billionaires instead of cutting them?

Maybe democrats should do something to earn our votes.

Nobody who voted for Harris were trying to do a f*cking personal favor for her. We were all trying to do ourselves and the country a favor. Some other person has to earn your right to permit you to do yourself a personal favor? The rest of us are simply claiming that right for ourselves because we would be fools not to.

You say “Thats your problem” like you think the DNC can win without these people you talk down to.

It is our problem. You and me and everybody. Because we are the primary losers whenever the GOP wins elections. Not well to do politicians. They are going to be fine either way.

you’ll quickly realize that the Democrats are more active villains than you currently realize, and are the primary party we’re having to battle.

Wow you guys haven’t changed at all since 1917. This is a remarkable consistency for 108 years. Lenin and Stalin also saw their primary enemies as the other leftwing parties instead of the conservatives. They killed and/or imprisoned literally every member of Russia’s other 2 socialist parties, the Menshiviks and the Socialist Revolutionary Party.

Once you’re advocating for voting for a genocidal party as ‘harm reduction’,

Oh hey I’m glad you brought up “genocide”. You remind me very much of Trump and his whoppers. But this gives us an opportunity to review Lenin and Stalin’s genocide.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excess_mortality_in_the_Soviet_Union_under_Joseph_Stalin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gulag_Archipelago

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0967067X97000111

https://www.chinafile.com/library/nyrb-china-archive/who-killed-more-hitler-stalin-or-mao

https://news.stanford.edu/stories/2010/09/naimark-stalin-genocide-092310

https://www.reddit.com/r/history/comments/ezpp8k/how_many_people_did_stalin_actually_kill/

https://allthatsinteresting.com/how-many-people-did-stalin-kill

https://www.britannica.com/place/Soviet-Union/The-U-S-S-R-from-the-death-of-Lenin-to-the-death-of-Stalin

For a capitalist party? Absolutely not. You’re giving them consent to govern on your behalf, and reinforcing their legitimacy.

I am glad you agree that consent is important. The Communists ruled Russia for 74 years without anybody’s consent, so I will assume you understand as all of us do that they are every bit as bad as their Fascist allies.

The thing about voting for the “least fascist” is you’re still voting for a fascist.

Good thing I’m voting for a democrat and not a fascist then.

Get a gun, get organized with your community, build up shared resources, and prepare for the shoe to drop.

The thing about supporting a Communist overthrow of democracy is that you’re still supporting a Fascist overthrow of democracy with the same end result.

The DNC won’t improve things because…[bunch of nonsense]

Why the fuck would you think that the DNC has the power to “improve things”? The DNC is no different from the RNC. Neither of them have any power at all over any branch of government. The 2 Dem organizations with 100% of the actual power to make laws are the HDC and the SDC.

If the fascism is going to happen anyway, which it will under the current democratic strategy, I would rather it happen now while I’m young enough to fight and not 10 years from now while I’m old and decrepit. (Well, more old and decrepit.)

LMFAO. Do you have any idea how naive this sounds? More likely than not you would be living under Fascism for the entire remainder of your life. The Germans who voted for Hitler in 1933 and were in East Germany had to wait 66 years until the year 1989 before they were allowed to choose their own leaders again. The people who supported the Communists in China who came to power in 1949 were all fucked for the entire remainder of their lives. And now their descendants 76 years later are still fucked in 2025 because of the foolishness of the people in 1949.

Make America Corrupt Again

https://www.thefp.com/p/how-qatar-bought-america

So I think I’m going to choose not to vote in the general

You are going to help billionaires get gigantic GOP tax cuts and increase wealth inequality. Got it.

unity with liberals

Did you not know that “liberal” is literally a synonym of “progressive”. Moderate Dems (there are not moderate Republicans) are not liberals and don’t call themselves liberals.

By “end the Duopoly” you just mean "help billionaires get gigantic GOP tax cuts’. We’ve had dozens of 3rd parties and they have all been failures. The system has structural forces in place to prevent them from being successful. Nobody alive today created this system. We are all stuck with it same as you. But we recognize the reality that millions will die or become impoverished every time someone like Traitorapist Trump gets elected from his party of corrupt decadents. And we recognize the reality that when the GOP wins it is us who loses, not politicians.