Abgesehen davon, dass die Masse der Leute wohl eher die App nutzen, ist das Problem viel umfassender. Die chinesische Zensur kann man auch bei lokaler Nuztung von Deepseek nicht umgehen. Das China Media Project hat sehr gute Berichte dazu verfasst, siehe etwas diese drei:
A Proposal for AI-Powered Censorship (Januar 2025)
Tracking Control: Sparking Compliant AI (Mai 2024)
AI for All (Dezember 2024)
Es ist ein bisschen viel, aber sehr lesenswert.
Is it britophobic if you criticize the UK? And europhobic when being critical of the EU? - No one would likely say that, I’v never heard it.
It actually is something terrible. If it happens also in the UK and anywhere else doesn’t make it better (but feel free to post a new article here on the UK malpractice, I am curious whether there will be a similar whataboutery like, “But this happens also in China” - what do you expect?).
This is pure whataboutery, and it does not enhance debate culture here. This is why I end this discussion.
Das mag Dein Problem sein, aber das steht nirgendwo. Un die Datenschutzprobleme mit US-Angeboten werden u.a. auch hier geposted (allerdings kommt dann kein Whataboutery nach dem Motto “Aber China ist okay?” - Warum eigentlich nicht da auch?).
Was Du hier tust, ist reines Whataboutery. Sonst nichts. Deshalb beende ich diese Diskussion auch schon wieder.
Downvote for Whataboutery. Ist leider zu weit verbreitet hier.
Are you really this braindead or just on Russia’s and China’s payroll?
Addition:
One report from 2023 already discusses the issue. A brief summary of the report can be read in the article China’s Greed for Lithium is Killing the Tibetan Plateau:
The report further stressed that this large-scale exploitation of Tibet has been initiated and supported by Xi Jinping himself under his “Made in China 2025” campaign. During his visit to Qinghai Province in 2021, Xi called for the escalation of lithium extraction on a large scale. Apart from lithium, Tibet is home to the world’s largest deposits of critical minerals used in various technologies in critical industries like pharmaceuticals and electronics …
However, the continuous mining in the area has had a devastating impact on the ecology of the Tibetan Plateau, raising the pollution level. It not only polluted rivers and streams but, in several cases, even diverted their flow. This has severely affected the flora and fauna of the region. The government in Beijing seems least concerned about the negative effect of continuous mining across the Tibetan Plateau. Its whole focus is on making money …
Rivers have been affected the most, and they are far from recovery. The Tibetan Plateau is the origin of mighty rivers like Mekong and Yarlung Tsangpo (known as Brahmaputra in the Indian sub-continent). These rivers have been the living force for millions of people in Southeast Asia and South Asia …
Another problem is the contamination of soil. During lithium extraction, several chemicals come into contact with soil. Rivers and floods further aid this contaminated soil to reach agricultural fields, affecting the growth of crops. Apart from poisoning the nearby surface water, it also has severe effects on the groundwater …
China has made false promises at platforms like the Conference of Parties (CoP) summits and other environmental protection summits. Little has been achieved in maintaining ecological biospheres around Tibet.
On the contrary, Tibet has become a dumping ground for Beijing. Glaciers are melting, tens and hundreds of small rivers and streams have dried up, the air is polluted, and floods have become normal occurrences. Many critically endangered species are on the verge of extinction. The “roof of the world” is going through the biggest turbulence while Beijing is busy extracting “white gold.”
The report goes on with a lot more of devastating pollutions. And this is just one among many, see, for example, here. You’ll find more on the web.
Addition:
One report from 2023 already discusses the issue. A brief summary of the report can be read in the article China’s Greed for Lithium is Killing the Tibetan Plateau:
The report further stressed that this large-scale exploitation of Tibet has been initiated and supported by Xi Jinping himself under his “Made in China 2025” campaign. During his visit to Qinghai Province in 2021, Xi called for the escalation of lithium extraction on a large scale. Apart from lithium, Tibet is home to the world’s largest deposits of critical minerals used in various technologies in critical industries like pharmaceuticals and electronics …
However, the continuous mining in the area has had a devastating impact on the ecology of the Tibetan Plateau, raising the pollution level. It not only polluted rivers and streams but, in several cases, even diverted their flow. This has severely affected the flora and fauna of the region. The government in Beijing seems least concerned about the negative effect of continuous mining across the Tibetan Plateau. Its whole focus is on making money …
Rivers have been affected the most, and they are far from recovery. The Tibetan Plateau is the origin of mighty rivers like Mekong and Yarlung Tsangpo (known as Brahmaputra in the Indian sub-continent). These rivers have been the living force for millions of people in Southeast Asia and South Asia …
Another problem is the contamination of soil. During lithium extraction, several chemicals come into contact with soil. Rivers and floods further aid this contaminated soil to reach agricultural fields, affecting the growth of crops. Apart from poisoning the nearby surface water, it also has severe effects on the groundwater …
China has made false promises at platforms like the Conference of Parties (CoP) summits and other environmental protection summits. Little has been achieved in maintaining ecological biospheres around Tibet.
On the contrary, Tibet has become a dumping ground for Beijing. Glaciers are melting, tens and hundreds of small rivers and streams have dried up, the air is polluted, and floods have become normal occurrences. Many critically endangered species are on the verge of extinction. The “roof of the world” is going through the biggest turbulence while Beijing is busy extracting “white gold.”
The report goes on with a lot more of devastating pollutions. And this is just one among many, see, for example, here. You’ll find more on the web.
Addition:
One report from 2023 already discusses the issue. A brief summary of the report can be read in the article China’s Greed for Lithium is Killing the Tibetan Plateau:
The report further stressed that this large-scale exploitation of Tibet has been initiated and supported by Xi Jinping himself under his “Made in China 2025” campaign. During his visit to Qinghai Province in 2021, Xi called for the escalation of lithium extraction on a large scale. Apart from lithium, Tibet is home to the world’s largest deposits of critical minerals used in various technologies in critical industries like pharmaceuticals and electronics …
However, the continuous mining in the area has had a devastating impact on the ecology of the Tibetan Plateau, raising the pollution level. It not only polluted rivers and streams but, in several cases, even diverted their flow. This has severely affected the flora and fauna of the region. The government in Beijing seems least concerned about the negative effect of continuous mining across the Tibetan Plateau. Its whole focus is on making money …
Rivers have been affected the most, and they are far from recovery. The Tibetan Plateau is the origin of mighty rivers like Mekong and Yarlung Tsangpo (known as Brahmaputra in the Indian sub-continent). These rivers have been the living force for millions of people in Southeast Asia and South Asia …
Another problem is the contamination of soil. During lithium extraction, several chemicals come into contact with soil. Rivers and floods further aid this contaminated soil to reach agricultural fields, affecting the growth of crops. Apart from poisoning the nearby surface water, it also has severe effects on the groundwater …
China has made false promises at platforms like the Conference of Parties (CoP) summits and other environmental protection summits. Little has been achieved in maintaining ecological biospheres around Tibet.
On the contrary, Tibet has become a dumping ground for Beijing. Glaciers are melting, tens and hundreds of small rivers and streams have dried up, the air is polluted, and floods have become normal occurrences. Many critically endangered species are on the verge of extinction. The “roof of the world” is going through the biggest turbulence while Beijing is busy extracting “white gold.”
The report goes on with a lot more of devastating pollutions. And this is just one among many, see, for example, here. You’ll find more on the web.
Your Wikipedia article says basically the same as the linked article, e.g.,
After the collapse, many people on social media condemned the government for negligence. The main point of contention were claims by Serbian Railways Infrastructure that the canopy had not been reconstructed. Another point of controversy was the refusal of CRIC-CCCC [which refers to the Chinese consortium] to share documentation of the reconstruction publicly.
The article’s point fully stands.
The definition says it must include data information (“the complete description of all data used for training, including (if used) of unshareable data, disclosing the provenance of the data, its scope and characteristics, how the data was obtained and selected, the labeling procedures, and data processing and filtering methodologies”), as well as code and paramters. Read your link.
The guys at Hugging Face are working on a more open model based on Deepseek as they also claim it is not fully Open Source.
Thank you for stating that “@Hotznplotzn@lemmy.sdf.org is likely a paid actor” being baseless. It indeed is, although your hint is not too friendly.
Then you may have misunderstood the issue.
I respectfully disagree. The analysis provides much more input that Deepseek’s press release claiming its USD 5m budget (and some other points -e.g. of being Open Source while it isn’t, and other points.)
It was not caused by Chinese malpractice so much as Serbian negligence.
As the article explains, the two things go hand in hand in this case.
Xi was duely elected
It seems you don’t know how a Chinese ‘election’ works …
Do yourself a favor and stay away from the communities where you get this stuff to get your life back.
Judge keeps Musk’s DOGE from further digging into US Gov’s spending
Citing potential “irreparable harm,” US Federal Judge Paul A. Engelmayer Saturday blocked Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) from accessing specific records within the Treasury Department, thus acquiescing to a request from New York Attorney General Letitia James and 19 States under Democratic rule.
The plaintiffs contended Musk’s team accessing this data could pose risks to cybersecurity and violate federal law by potentially mishandling or exposing sensitive personal and financial information of millions of Americans.
Engelmayer also ruled that any data already accessed by DOGE must be destroyed immediately. This injunction is in place until at least February 14, 2025, when further arguments involving national security, privacy rights, and political motivations, will be heard.
Judge keeps Musk’s DOGE from further digging into US Gov’s spending
Citing potential “irreparable harm,” US Federal Judge Paul A. Engelmayer Saturday blocked Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) from accessing specific records within the Treasury Department, thus acquiescing to a request from New York Attorney General Letitia James and 19 States under Democratic rule.
The plaintiffs contended Musk’s team accessing this data could pose risks to cybersecurity and violate federal law by potentially mishandling or exposing sensitive personal and financial information of millions of Americans.
Engelmayer also ruled that any data already accessed by DOGE must be destroyed immediately. This injunction is in place until at least February 14, 2025, when further arguments involving national security, privacy rights, and political motivations, will be heard.
The new rules apply to Amazon and any mail-order businesses.
Wired gibt einen Einblick, wie die chinesiche Zensur bei Deepseek in etwas funktioniert. Der Artikel beschreibt auch, wie man sie im Grunde umgehen kann. Allerdings ist das nicht einfach, weil Du eben nicht weisst, welche Trainingsdaten verwendet wurden und welche bewussten Verzerrungen ('biases") genau eingebaut wurden. Für Experten ist das schon m.E. schon nicht einfach, und für die Masse der Leute sowieso nicht.
Edit: Hier ist der Wired-Artikel:
Here’s How DeepSeek Censorship Actually Works—and How to Get Around It