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  • Aww, is someone having to change their quote, because what they said was incorrect, but you can’t admit to it so you pretend you didn’t say what you actually did say?

    You didn’t say “depression is in your head”. You said “Objectively, depression is JUST in your head.”

    That’s something an overconfident moron with no understanding of psychiatry might say.



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    So by saying “OBJECTIVELY, depression is just in your head” you actually meant “well, depression isn’t just in your head, it encompasses the whole body and we all understand about how mind-body dualism is a naive concept and everything in your body affects your mind and the other way around. depression creates inflammation through-out the body, robbing it of vital functionality required to maintain proper homeostasis, leading to a feedback loop worsening the situation”?

    That’s quite a lot of subtext for something that’s prescriptively opposite of the comment.

    Are you sure you’re not just lying because you’re ashamed of having said something incorrect? Because to me, that seems much more simple of an explanation.

    Imagine me writing “the earth is flat” and then arguing that if you read that as if I thought the earth was flat, you’re a moron, since I “obviously” meant that the Earth is of course actually an oblate spheroid. That would seem a tad silly, wouldn’t it?






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    “Objectively, it’s JUST in your head.”

    You said something moronic which I’ve proved completely wrong and instead of manning up and taking your words back, you dig in deeper to your stupidity, as if this was real life and you could get away with your bullshit.

    You don’t know a single thing about psychiatry, child.

    Edit and also digestive issues are very much commonplace in mental disorders and poor nutrition can cause depression and in depression your entire body gets inflamed, so one could actually say depression is also in your arse



  • “It’s just in your head”

    “Nobody is denting that depression affects your entire body.”

    This is what I mean. Youre defending this dipshit because you thought me rude. You’re defending a willfully ignorant dolt who’s literally saying “trustmebro” over me explaining how nothing is “just” in your head or your body because there is no such division in our bodies, and how depression can be induced extremely easily just by changing the physical environment of a person and limiting their nutrients.

    So it’s incredibly fucking reductive (and thus harmful misinfo) to say “it’s just in your head”. And you’re defending a person who did that, because “he’s just being skeptical”.

    You’re like the right wing fuck nuts who try to read deeper meaning into Trump’s demented babbling, saying what a genius he is while he’s talking absolute gibberish…

    He’s not being skeptical. He’s ignoring actual science and asserting his ignorant “trustmebro” facts. That’s not skepticism ffs.


  • “Blindly trusting science”

    No-one is blindly trusting science.

    I’m saying we know for a fact how depression affects your entire body.

    “FelixCress is just being skeptical”

    No, they’re not. They’re like a flat earther. They have absolutely no idea even of the basics of psychiatry.

    This is why Trump won. People like you defending people like him. Not all opinions are equal.

    You’re making an argument about skepticism, but you trust a guy who doesn’t have sources and doesn’t reason his “it’s just in your head” bullshit?

    So anyone can claim literally anything they want and if anyone dares point out how we actually do know for a fact the Earth isn’t flat, you’ll get mad and start blaming those people for eugenics while defending some dipshit as “just skeptic” who’s claiming the Earth is pancake shaped.

    Fucking hell it’s depressing just how strong the antiscience culture is.



  • I have, aye.

    You’re still going on about how when you google the term, you’ll get a Wikipedia link and it says “mental disorder” right? I mean that completely means everything I proved about depression affecting your whole body wrong, without you needing to open any of them, doesn’t it? /s

    “It’s just in your head” is the most naive quote I’ve read about depression in a decade.



  • Maybe in what they are saying is a kernel of a truth

    So symptoms can appear before a supposed cause has happened?

    I never had any problems with mood as a kid. Now that I can’t work, I do.

    Hmm.

    Almost as if there was a correlation. Which leads me to journals and basically logs of my shit I have. Which quite clearly show the correlation. Also sleep diaries (band recorder from wrist) from the better part of a year, and still. They said I don’t need sleep studies (which me and my psychiatrist were pushing for) as “just give him more antipsychotics”.

    Maybe in what they are saying is a kernel of a truth

    There literally isn’t and I’ve personally studied this personal issue for my entire fucking life, and know what helps what doesn’t and what is psychosomatic and what isn’t. As I’ve gone through all variations, such as when I fast, pretty much all of the problems go away, only to be replaced by the alight ones the fasting causes, but they’re nothing in comparison. Then I can stress myself out in any ways and still have none of those psychosomatic symptoms.

    Maybe people should accept doctors are people and people can make mistakes. But no. So they can’t accept anything has been wrong and I could have a point. And they can’t even defend their bullshit, but when I made a complaint to the ombudsman, quoting ICD-10 and the current local doctoral guidelines, still nothing, “Nah nothing wrong done, you’re just a junkie.”

    I the problems since I was a kid. I started smoking weed the first time around 17-18.

    Most of my current psychosomatic issues come from the rage I get from having to deal with people like you



  • I guess something similar could be used for drug user that somehow is intepreted as addict.

    This would rely on the doctors first having empathy second being able to use it third be willing to use it.

    I got a bit of progress when I switched my healthcare services to a hc station I knew to have young doctors. As my “drug use” is me using less alcohol than the average person, smoking high-CBD low THC weed and in my early twenties experimented with a few party drugs. This has been recorder as me having had “a serious multisubstance abuse problems”

    for weed if it’s possible (wikipedia says that it’s legal for medical use.)

    Ruahahaha yeah technically it is legal. There’s like a dozen people in the country with a prescription. One is a friend though. He went thorough years of pushing it through with private doctors he practically knew and he has severe nerve pain. Even then you have to eat opiates before ever being allowed to even have a doctor propose that you might benefit from legal cannabis.

    Definitely would never be given to me no matter what I had, as they’ve deemed me a junkie because I admitted medical use of cannabis. Despite me having gone to weekly randomised drug tests for months on end pissing clean, showing I’m not an addict of any sort.

    I am uninformed but I heard from psychiatrist that weed has some negative effects on mental illness.

    High THC low CBD strains definitely can have negative effects. But usually they people who use those strains take the slight jitters their superpotent weed gives them rather than having unimaginable nervepain throbbing constantly. I’m definitely not in the “no side effects in cannabis” camp, but I had politely tried all of their things and to try and figure this shit out, I thought giving doctors more info would help. That it would help them deduce what’s wrong, because cannabis helped my horrible digestive issues, in turn helping me sleep and not be so anxious. (If your stomach constantly hurts as if you were stressing something, you begin to stress about something, even when there’s nothing to stress about. Somatopsychic instead of psychosomatic.)

    But no. Basically ruined my life. Fucking wish I could go back to my 18-year old self and slap me around “honesty is overvalued and will only get you in trouble. You want to just seem like you’re honest, while lying your ass off.”

    “Ride on painkillers”

    Lol what? Eat ibuprofen or opiates… for digestive issues?

    Yeah, you do know what you’re talking about when you say “I am totally clueless”. No offense, but spot on.

    I have been without weed for months several times. Why do people always assume I haven’t?


  • Yeah therapy helps, but there’s clearly an underlying physical issue that I’ve been trying to figure out for more than 20 years.

    But since in my twenties I mentioned weed helping with the symptoms, I’ve since not been listened to at all, treated as a full on drug addict and every single symptom I have had have been thought to be psychosomatic.

    I’ve evidence to the contrary. Supported by surgery scars, doctor’s statements (from when the doctors actually listened to me when I was younger) and I even quote peer reviewed research from credible medical journals.

    But no. Just treat me like a psychotic junkie. And if I challenge them in any of that, it just confirms their “suspicions”.

    I’d just need a couple of grand to waste on private doctors, but I don’t have a couple of grand extra.

    So if what I had was purely psychogenic, yes, you’d be totally right. But if what I have is depression because of my underlying chronic illness going undiagnosed because of inept and unwilling healthcare, then therapy might alleviate the symptoms, but it’s not gonna make it go away completely.

    My mental health isn’t 100%, but my biggest problem at the moment is Finnish bureaucracy, to which shit healthcare is very much intertwined with.

    Edit oh and it didn’t take me years to go to therapy because I was unwilling, it’s because the healthcare said I didn’t need any.