A while ago we had a post with a comic that was a bit controversial due to it being generated by genAI, but we did not explicitly have a rule against it.
We wanted to discuss this and ask the community, but this apparently had already been a topic on feddit.uk for awhile and they have made a instance rule about it (announced in this post).
Since buyeuropean community is on feddit.uk, the feddit.uk rules apply to this community and therefore I wanted to announce this new rule so it doesn’t come as a surprise.
Copy of the post body text from the announcement of this rule on feddit.uk:
So no:
- AI generated memes of images
- AI generated answers to questions
edit: this applies to feddit.uk communities, we won’t block AI art communities on other instances or sanction our users for posting on them.
I agree those two are bad things, but it is to me not enough reason to ban it entirely.
You’re ignoring one very problematic aspect: these artists and authors they’re stealing from? They have no way to opt-in or opt-out. These multi-billion dollar companies can just slurp up whatever they want, and they do. What’s your favorite web comic artist or indie musician going to do? Sue them? With what money?
Nowhere is consent a consideration, and until these companies start acting in good faith and instead of like billionaires (fat chance), they should not be allowed to run their slop generators.
If you generally mean “machine learning,” I agree that there’s good applications, such as in medicine. The arts, though? It has no business there.
Still disagree although I agree that is a very problematic aspect. I think the ai companies have been given too much freedom. I’m also fine with everybody choosing not to use it. I also agree artists were fucked over and deserve artistic credits and financial compensation, I will support them getting this. I myself have not generated an image that looks like something from Ghibli for example. But still, all things considered; I don’t think banning all ai generated content a reasonable thing to do. But that has more to do with my world view concerning individual freedom than how I view ai generated things and the behaviour of ai companies.
What’s your take on AI like Adobe’s Firefly? it’s supposedly trained on their own licensed stock images, the artists get paid and they can opt-in / opt-out.
It was not, their claims are not verifiable as they also used “third party datasets” without disclosing which ones. Also supposedly opt-out options appeared after they used their stocks to train/fine tune Firefly which contradict their promise of notifying users before doing so and likely illegal in most European countries. To add to that, their stocks are not curated/moderated and anyone can upload the whole collection of an artist there without agreement (opt-out is a deeply flawed system that protect no one), not to mention that the “pay” the contributors received was absolutely ridiculous…