• Gork@lemm.ee
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    18 hours ago

    Their evidence: a photoshopped image with Calibri typeface on his knuckles. It’s like they weren’t even trying.

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      17 hours ago

      They claim that the various tattoos he had, like that skull and shit, are all various symbols that denote MS13.

      Never mind that one of the MOST KNOWN THINGS about MS-13 is that they’re famous for tattooing EXACTLY THAT across their entire bodies, flamboyantly.

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          9 hours ago

          Yeah, never explained.

          Someone offered up the alternative: Weed Dead (the face has Xs for eyes) 4 points on a cross 0 Because if a skull can mean ‘3’ it can mean 0 too?

          WD40

          But either way, if this guy doesn’t get a hearing, then how can any of us be assured we could also get a hearing? Maybe he gets deported, maybe he’s problematic, but we have to be giving people hearings.

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      15 hours ago

      The photo is stupid as hell, but saying they’re claiming the obviously added text ‘M S 1 3’ is what was actually tattooed on his hand is intentionally disingenuous.

      It’s obviously an annotation to show what they think the symbols that are tattooed on those fingers mean.

      Argue about the symbols and their meaning all you want; but please stop bringing up the added typeface like it has any sort of useful meaning in these conversations. It’s literally just subtitles.

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        14 hours ago

        did you see the video where trump added a fake hurricane path prediction with a sharpie marker?

        trump set the precedent of providing obviously fake things as evidence, and now people are expecting that.

        but also, pot leaf, smiley, cross, skull doesn’t mean MS13 and that’s just insane….
        even if it meant that, that would only prove that he fucked around with some affiliate gang when he was a kid, not that he’s a super terrorist.

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          14 hours ago

          The whole thing absolutely ridiculous; regardless of their meaning, it’s an incredibly flimsy reason to link him to gang activities and suspend due process.

          I’m just annoyed at all the people and various news articles failing to talk about that and instead scream things like “Internet Sleuths determine image was photoshopped!!!” and go on about how the font means its fake, because somebody clearly opened it in MS Paint and added some shitty annotations before having Trump pose with the printout

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            13 hours ago

            it pisses me off too… the first thing i heard of it was the “internet sleuths say it was photoshopped”… so i looked at it, at first i was shocked… they really just put letters on the picture? didn’t match the color or shape of the hand?!?!
            then i realized it was just annotated and the real story is the only flimsy evidence they have is some shitty non-ms13 tattoos….

            back in the day i say some table of gang associated tattoos and it said the pot leaf is a ms13 symbol, and i thought that was just soooo stupid.
            but now they’re acting like it’s proof.

            but i wouldn’t call it disingenuous to think the annotation was their fake evidence since they’ve faked evidence before while barely trying….
            even this could’ve been an attempt at fake evidence and then they claimed it was annotated later… they’re really that dumb….

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        15 hours ago

        Why argue about the symbols? The more important point is violating human rights by a lack of due process. He is innocent until proven guilty and there’s no legal value in posting a photo online

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        15 hours ago

        The additions to the image were made without context. If they meant subtitles as an interpretation of what they meant, they should say so. Otherwise it is unclear.