• go_go_gadget@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Democrats could have used the reconciliation bill in order to pass the BBB but they didn’t.

    Tells me all I need to know about establishment Democrats: they’re not on my side.

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      8 months ago

      What part about Manchin/Sinema is difficult to understand here? How does that relate to Biden who pushed the bill?

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        8 months ago

        Manchin/Sinema could not have stopped Democrats from using the reconciliation bill as a bargaining chip to pass the BBB. It was not called for by Pelosi, Biden or any establishment Democrat for one simple reason: They didn’t care and expected voters to just show up anyway.

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          What are you talking about? They needed 50 votes in the Senate for a reconciliation vote which they did not have, because of the aforementioned senators. The bill was passed by the house (of which Pelosi was Speaker at the time). There was a lot of negotiation between the White House and the two senators to get the bill to 50 in the Senate. None of what you are saying is correct!

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        8 months ago

        I’m relatively unconvinced by laying all the blame on them. The president is the leader of his party and has the massive power of the bully pulpit to help bring them into line. He was unable or unwilling to do that.

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          And if he had used that “power” then he’d be called a bully, etc, (including by people who don’t give a shit when R does it)

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          8 months ago

          Question: what party is Sinema in now?

          It’s pretty evident now Sinema could not be bullied if she was willing to immolate her career over even the soft demands made of her.