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    4 days ago

    their previous position was that a vegan diet could be healthy for children or pregnant or lactating people. that is no longer their position.

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        4 days ago

        they let that position expire, and when they issued a new position, it specifically excluded them. the expired position is not their current position.

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          You cannot draw that conclusion from that one article, particularly when the article says explicitly, “… and is outside the scope of this Position Paper.” Presumably they either have, or will be, writing more specific guidelines for children and pregnant women on plant-based diets, but so far this is what I’ve found on their paper on nutrition benchmarks for children:

          “Some children may also require dietary modifications for certain cultural or religious preferences, including vegetarian diets,4 which may also have added benefits. A recent study of one child-care center in South Carolina found that adding vegetarian meals to the menu improved the nutrient content of foods provided while keeping total energy, saturated fat, sodium, and cholesterol relatively low.11”

          To read that paper and infer that it’s claiming plant-based diets are unsafe for children and pregnant women requires such a thick degree of bias it’s just desperate. Especially in the context of every other health authority around the world affirming that a properly implemented plant-based diet is safe and adequate for all stages of life. You really need to take a look in the mirror and ask yourself why you’re trying so hard to lie about this.

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            You really need to take a look in the mirror and ask yourself why you’re trying so hard to lie about this.

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            Especially in the context of every other health authority around the world affirming that a properly implemented plant-based diet is safe and adequate for all stages of life.

            every such position i’ve seen relies on the now-expired AND position. they should not be considered valid unless they have also been updated and no longer rely on an expired position.

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              Dude, the first article I quoted is literally from the exact link you sent, and the second article I quoted comes from this link that you just sent now, which is where I found it in the first place. Also, you keep talking about the old paper “expiring.” You know they have to explicitly state when removals are made, and why they’re made, right? Here is from the page about it:

              “This article has been removed at the request of the Academy Positions Committee (APC) of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics. The APC became aware of inaccuracies and omissions in the position paper that could affect recommendations and conclusions within the paper. After further review, the APC decided it was appropriate to remove this paper for major revision.”

              So as you say, unless removed, everything on that page is still considered valid - including everything I quoted. Seriously, just stop. This is getting ridiculous.

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                it’s written on the paper itself: it expired in december of 2021, and is no longer the position of teh academy.

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                    And the page about childhood nutrition:

                    I wasn’t reading carefully. I missed this. it doesn’t change whether the other paper expired, is the current position of the academy, or whether papers that relied on it should be considered reliable unless they update.