The murders sparked protests in Messina, Rome and other Italian cities, including Bologna, on Wednesday night. Further events are planned on Thursday.
In March, Giorgia Meloni’s government approved a draft law which for the first time introduced a legal definition of femicide in criminal law, punishing it with life in prison while increasing sentences for crimes including stalking, sexual violence and “revenge porn”.
The law followed the strong public reaction to the killing of Giulia Cecchettin, a 22-year-old student who was murdered by her former boyfriend, Filippo Turetta, in November 2023. Turetta was sentenced to life in prison in December.
How many of those were self-defense (from either sex)? I wouldn’t mix them for this discussion.
You can try as much as you like to excuse women from responsibility for killing their partners, but the fact of the matter is, women can be just as ruthless as men, just usually in different ways.
Maternal infanticide is still a thing, and a “pediatric study of mothers in the general population found that 70% of mothers with colicky infants experienced explicit aggressive thoughts toward their infants, and over a quarter (26%) of them had infanticidal thoughts during colic episodes”. So, 26% of these kind and loving creatures thought of killing their own child because they cried a lot.
There is a gender disparity, and a much greater difference in expression, but if you want to deal with the root causes of violence, you will have to look beyond gender.
And no, I don’t have a pile of these saved up. I’m just willing to accept that people are people, regardless of gender or a myriad of other demographics, unless a clear link is shown between the demographic and the behavior being examined. The trend towards being shitty has far greater factors than gender.
Huh? I explicitly said I would separate self defense for both sexes, because I believe those aren’t what we are talking about. I wasn’t defending or excusing “women”.
Also, both women and men kill because of serious mental disorders (‘insanity’ in legal terms in the U.S.). How many of those maternal infanticides can be explained by post-partum psychosis or similar conditions? I wouldn’t count murders by insane people (from neither sex).
I suspect you’re not as unbiased as you’d think…
This whole thing started because of the line, “It’s not all men, but it’s always a man.” I’ve given a number of circumstances where it’s definitively not a man, so is it always a man or not?
Yeah I agree, I don’t even look at it as a gender thing. It’s a predator thing. Predators go after prey that’s weaker than them. That’s what they do. These woman killers might not be able to take on a man, but they’re strong enough to overpower a kid.