This would be terminally shameful to anybody who wasn’t completely immune to shame.
I wonder why…
That picture is one of the funniest I’ve ever seen. Absolutely a classic.
Here’s a treat, don’t consume them all at once: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5961853/Trump-ruthlessly-mocked-social-media-disgraceful-performance-Putin.html
You can view this one of two ways, possibly both:
- Krasnov
- Trump apparently was doing these tariffs based on trade deficits (Which is stupid on its own, if your dentist doesn’t buy the widgets you sell, that’s not a tariff.), if Russia wasn’t running one, then there you go.
To rebuke 2 I present the following- https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/europe-middle-east/russia-and-eurasia/russia
U.S. total goods trade with Russia were an estimated $3.5 billion in 2024. U.S. goods exports to Russia in 2024 were $526.1 million, down 12.3 percent ($73.5 million) from 2023. U.S. goods imports from Russia totaled $3.0 billion in 2024, down 34.2 percent ($1.6 billion) from 2023. The U.S. goods trade deficit with Russia was $2.5 billion in 2024, a 37.5 percent decrease ($1.5 billion) over 2023.
Based on that math, with the CNN article I linked for the formula (the country’s trade deficit divided by its exports to the United States times 1/2) we get - (2,500,000,000 / 3,000,000,000) * 1/2 = 0.416666…
So Russia should have a 42% tariff based on their purported 83% tariff on us.
And that’s how you end up in Guantanamo.
Trump seems to think the trade deficit is some sort of debt that we’ll have to pay off in the future.
The overall goal of bringing manufacturing back to the US isn’t necessarily a bad one, but this is probably the worst way to go about doing it. One article I read pointed out that it would take many years of consistent tariffs to generate that kind of interest and investment - but anyone with half a brain knows these tariffs could be gone tomorrow, so there’s little inclination to actually try to build factories in the US based on this move. No reasonable investor would want to bet their company on Trump acting consistently.
…pointed out that it would take many years of consistent tariffs to generate that kind of interest and investment…
That’s the scary thing. Citrus-Hitler assumes he’s gonna have himself and his policies in place for “many years of consistent tariffs.”
For context, Cuba, North Korea, and Belarus are also not tariffed because they are sanctioned instead.
I wondered the same thing. Why would you add tariffs if it’s illegal to even trade with them?
One wouldn’t, which makes all the Krasnov comments in this situation entertaining.
So US imposed tariff on penguins, but 0 on Russia!
I miss Gilbert
I’m sad now.
Well, why should Agent Krasnov put tariffs on the hand that feeds him, good old Vlad? 🤷🏼♂️
Guys I think there’s some evidence that this is, shall we say, Russia friendly (such as the astronomical tariff rate on Moldova of all places), but Russia isn’t included because it’s a “Column 2” country alongside Belarus, Cuba, and North Korea, and therefore all subject to the stiff tariffs we already impose on the worst of the worst. Please let’s not share things like this which just make us look gullable to the morons on the right supporting this buffoon. It’s not a good look.
Do you have a source for this? I checked https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5ypxnnyg7jo but cannot find this.
Edit: https://discuss.tchncs.de/comment/17517599 says that some countries are not included in tariffs because they are sanctioned instead.
Look at section 3(b) of the executive order linked here, at the portion discussing “column 2”:
I was noticing this as well. The place that should have the highest tarrifs.
“tariffs”
Should tell you everything you need to know.
Do people not realize there is no US Russia trade so tariffs would be moot.
no US Russia trade
U.S. total goods trade with Russia were an estimated $3.5 billion in 2024. U.S. goods exports to Russia in 2024 were $526.1 million, down 12.3 percent ($73.5 million) from 2023. U.S. goods imports from Russia totaled $3.0 billion in 2024, down 34.2 percent ($1.6 billion) from 2023. The U.S. goods trade deficit with Russia was $2.5 billion in 2024, a 37.5 percent decrease ($1.5 billion) over 2023.
https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/europe-middle-east/russia-and-eurasia/russia
But what’s a few billion between friends?
No US Russia trade YET.
Kompromat
Krasnov strikes again! Until there is evidence to counter this theory, it satisfies Occam’s Razor.
from here https://t.me/s/artjockey_lite
Dmitriev gave a statement following his meetings in the US. Let me remind you that this was actually the first visit of this level since the beginning of the war, and sanctions were temporarily lifted for it.
As a result:
The timing of a new round of negotiations between the US and Russia will be determined in the near future; The resumption of direct air travel is under discussion; US businesses are ready to take the place of companies that left from the EU [they know how to appeal to Trump]; Overall, the US is taking a constructive stance and behaving respectfully.Judging by the statements, the talks were successful, but in practice — the truth is in the outcome. We’ll see whether there are any developments soon regarding the implementation of Russia’s conditions for a “maritime truce” or, on the contrary, whether Russia will make concessions and agree to it without sanctions being lifted.
Also, a reminder that in a few days, a Ukrainian delegation is set to hold negotiations in the US regarding a resource deal that Trump has already openly referred to as part of a peace agreement.
All in all, it looks like another round of diplomacy may take place next week. A maritime truce and a signed deal by Ukraine could be on the horizon. If that happens — or even if specific dates are set — the chances of a full ceasefire by the end of the month will significantly increase.
It’s more obvious than a sunrise that Trump doesn’t work for America.
Fairly sure that’s because Russia is heavily sanctioned by thr US already, alongside North Korea, Cuba, Iran etc.
Things are bad but let’s not spread hysteria.
That was also the official argument from Karoline Leavitt, spokesperson of the White House, although last years trading volume between Russia and the US still was about 3.5 billion USD (roughly three times of what Ukraine - US traded).
The question whether tariffs for Russia makes sense or not is rendered meaningless given the fact that the whole tariff plan is just wild (super small countries with a mimiscule part of trading volume still got heavily sanctioned etc).
You are right that we should not spread hysteria, but we should still question statements coming from government officials.
Agree with what you’re saying here and I think I need to do some more reading. Getting the impression that I’ve been misinformed/mislead.
That is less than sending 19 billion to Israel for free
don’t read the news because it might get weird for you
How does this point keep coming up? It’s been refuted like a dozen times in every post I see. Feels like intentional disinfo at this point.
You can believe what you like but I’m not here to spread disinformation. Looking at the replies from other people I think I’m just misinformed and need to do more research. It’s possible to be wrong on the internet without it being tied up in a conspiracy.
Right, but the number of people spreading the same wrong thing in multiple threads hours after they were openly provided direct info as to their error, starts to make it seem like a coordinated disinfo campaign.
Yes, it is possible to be wrong on the internet without a malicious intent. It’s also possible to spread disinfo without being a malicious actor, since the whole point of disinfo is to get other people to take it up and spread it, occluding the real issue and disrupting genuine conversation about it.
For clarity, I am not accusing you of being a malicious or disingenuous actor here. No offense, but I doubt you arrived at your position in a vacuum, you probably heard it from somewhere else first I imagine?
It’s a logical conclusion from quack, imo. It’s the second thing that came to my mind after the obvious ‘oh duh cause he’s Russias agent’
Yeah, it’s hard to put a tariff on a country that you have already sanctioned and don’t trade with at all. But that fact doesn’t play well here.
The US has 3.5 billion in trade with Russia. The tariffs include Iran; Venezuela, etc… they also slapped them on countries which we have a trade surplus with.
It’s also looking like they used chatgpt to write the list but then specifically omitted five countries. Russia, north korea, Cuba, Belarus. Russia and its fine closest allies. How can anyone see this and not think the Kremlin does t own the Epstein tapes
In terms of nations, I really have no idea what 3.5 billion means. Like is that a lot? I feel like we probably trade that much with China in like what, a week? A month, a day?
He tariffed countries with no people and trade deficits of thousands of dollars, and tariffed Ukraine.
they released the JFK tapes! several times!
honestly i remain skeptical any “kompromat” on trump exists. or any Epstein documents remain that matter. we’ve all seen it
I was skeptical up until the tariffs. Now it’s obvious they’ve got blackmail.
Alao an interview with epstein was leaked last year where he mentioned trump having sex on his plane. But in 2017 that clip was suppressed for some reason.
We know trump flew on that plane many times and that it was rigged with secret cameras
i wouldn’t say trump wasn’t a super gross Epstein buddy, we already know that.
“rigged with secret cameras”, so what. where is it now.
edit I know nothing is forthcoming. there’s nothing. stop fabricating and focus on what’s happening, because it’s already terrifying
There’s nothing that explains what orange man is doing better than blackmail.
I doubt it’s a blackmail thing, because at this point, not one of Trump’s supporters would give a damn if it was clearly proven that Trump personally took CP pictures.
I think Putin just whispers sweet nothings into Trump’s ear and controls him that way.
A large part of their movement is based on aesthetics. And csam is probably a bridge too far for them. It just looks ugly. But I have no doubt many of them don’t care about that either.
But from the blackmail angle, the public image of a sick pedo is not compatible with the orange man’s public facing persona and his narcissism would make him the perfect blackmail target
