I’m looking over my options in fleeing for safety as things get worse down here. I am considering joining friends in Oregon but that might not safe enough. I’m gay, atheist, have a college degree (not in anything useful, however), and am everything the nazi’s down here hate.

I need to get out.

I know you guys are justifiably pissed at us Americans right now, but if I were to try and move to Canada (and I have no idea how I could possibly do such a thing in time) would I be welcomed there? Would I be safe? Or would I be seen as an aggressor or threat of some sort?

I need to get out of here but if it means going somewhere everyone will hate me I might not be any better off.

  • arotrios@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 days ago

    You’ll need money to flee, at least $10k on hand, likely more, to start the process for Canadian citizenship.

    It will be easier to get to a blue state than it will across the border. Right now, all you need is transportation and considerably less seed money. It’s likely smarter to relocate to a blue state while you work out your international travel.

    Since you’re in Ohio, the closest metro that will likely protect you is Chicago. That’s a good place to start if you’re looking to go further north.

    If you can make it to the west coast, Oregon is likely the cheapest place to start, but be aware that eastern Oregon has its fair share of maga. Do not travel through or visit Idaho on your way (especially if you’re a person of color), and avoid Utah if at all possible. CO to NM to AZ is pretty safe if you’re looking to take the southern route to CA. You’ll probably be ok getting through Indiana as long as you keep to the freeway and don’t stop.

    • muusemuuse@lemm.eeOPEnglish
      64·
      2 days ago

      I drive a chevy bolt EV. While it has fast charge capability, it’s still a cheap EV and that fast charge still takes about an hour. Going through hostile territory isnt likely safe in my little hippymobile since I will be vulnerable at charging stations. I’ll probably have to rent a uhaul and tow it, making this trip more expensive.

      • arotrios@lemmy.worldEnglish
        5·
        2 days ago

        Hmm… the EV part is rough. You might be better off selling it and getting a hybrid for the trip (Civic hybrids run like a top imho - my 2006 has 240k and hasn’t had an issue yet). Charging infrastructure in the west isn’t great. You also have the option of storing more fuel on board if you don’t want to stop in hostile territory. You might even make money on the deal.

        • muusemuuse@lemm.eeOPEnglish
          5·
          2 days ago

          It’s only halfway paid off but it worth more than I paid so I’m keeping it. A uhaul is probably in the cards anyway.

      • rxbudian@lemmy.caEnglish
        2·
        2 days ago

        I think, in general, people who buy EV are the ones a bit more concerned about environment, which lean to the left and a bit more tolerant. So you probably can charge up your car on exclusively EV charging locations

          • rxbudian@lemmy.caEnglish
            2·
            1 day ago

            There are Youtube videos you can search on ‘how not to draw attention’ or ‘becoming a gray man’
            If no one notice you then you won’t be bothered.
            Most of the time, you’ll run into people who are busy with their own problems and won’t put an effort to keep following you or harass you unless you give them a reason to.