This is why Democrats lose.

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    3 days ago

    gavin newsom is the embodiment of dem rot

    that said, democrats have become incredibly toxic. the purity tests continue to eat them alive. stop participating in garbage.

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        2 days ago

        if that were it, and 2 out of three of those weren’t incredibly subjective then yeah, i’d agree

        the reality is much different. you can call anyone anything you want. keep expecting perfection and you will get nothing done. that doesn’t mean we need to turn a blind eye to everyone but it does mean that we should maybe chill the fuck out for three seconds and realize human beings have flaws. the ones throwing the most stones are often giving themselves away anyway so keep slangin

        that whole “thing” is not only flawed but is a huge reason why we are down so bad. perpetuating that thinking, you can miss me with that shit.

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          2 days ago

          What’s subjective about supporting an authoritarian dictatorship, sexual assault, or believing someone is of lesser value because of their demographic?

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            2 days ago

            if thats what you think i’m doing, you might be beyond saving

            see the comment by the other user stating “how this actually works” they are completely spot on

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        2 days ago

        It’s more like:

        If you don’t 100% support Palestine and don’t want to immediately cut off ALL aid to Israel without any forethought or nuance as to what that would actually mean, then you are literally just as bad as the people committing genocide.

        Or shit like:

        If you positively engage with the Harry Potter franchise at any point, you are literally just as bad as those who lynch trans people.

        Or things like:

        Literally all landlords are parasites, with no exceptions . If you rent a building, you should be dragged out to the street and shot for selfishly hoarding property.

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          2 days ago

          Ok but only the craziest fringe believes any of that.

          Like you’re taking the most extreme “leftist” views and labeling them the same as all liberals views. To be quite honest, if the entire dem party ACTUALLY believed the things you listed, we would be making great progress.

          But it’s just nonsense to drive everything even more right because obviously you don’t agree with those CRAZY Dems right? They want to NUKE ISRAEL!!

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            2 days ago

            those ideas totally trickle down to your average lib and you know it

            ask a sample size about harry potter and see how many disgusted looks you get (keep in mind jkr hasn’t been involved in any narrative sense in forever, but somehow that doesn’t matter) - freak shit

            ask them about israel/palestine - it’s either terrorist or nazi - a large section of the american public has opinions given to them from their digested media of choice - again freak shit. someone who condemns hamas or other insurgent groups is not a nazi. let people finish a fucking thought before parroting what you heard from your favorite youtuber.

            ask them about republicans - their literal neighbors - wait and see the words they are using (nazi, racist, terrorist)

            people speak so generally about shit they don’t have the faculty to truly comprehend. they do not deserve validation just because the majority can’t recognize that.

            we won’t win again until people look in the fucking mirror

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            2 days ago

            It’s not just him, the whole rightwing media system exists to turn the most extreme leftist political views and state that these are main stream. It’s been 10 years and we have no counter to it.