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The Bible.
A “biology” book from a Christian school that I basically had to unlearn everything from when I went to college. I would say being worse than useless.
I’ve had some of those, had to do the same unlearning. Did you know fossils are fake and actually only 6000 years old, and that carbon dating actually has flaws? Oh yes and the eye is way too complex for evolution to have been the cause. Just too complex. It’s the perfect organ and it must have been made by hand.
Yeah. It’s actually really shit because they take one of the most important fundamental parts of science (admitting flaws and uncertainty) and attempt to use it as a way to attack it.
I actually think the more subtle stuff like that is more damaging. While the “god put fossils there to test our faith” takes can more easily be undone.
Fully agreed. Science is not perfect, and that’s kind of the point. If a better theory with more evidence comes to light and disproves a current idea, they’ll accept it. Religion works the opposite way, they expect people to believe on pure faith, with no evidence. Then they try to play scientist by using fallacies like “it’s just too complex! It’s so unlikely” while hiding the fact that they have even less evidence on their side.
I don’t know why religion hates service so much. The amount of questions out there is infinite. We will never know all of the answers. Regina Spektor has an amazing line in one of her songs that says “each time a theory proves the mystery just moves”. I think about that a lot. For every answer we get there’s another question. We discover the atom. What’s smaller than that? We discover the electron. Well what’s smaller than that?.
So God isn’t literally above the sky because we discover space. Well what’s beyond space? So maybe the earth started with the big bang. What happened before that?? Religion still definitely has a place, and if they think more broadly beyond their literal interpretation it actually still works very well.
Yeah. Despite my upbringing I’m not against religion. I think it has its place for people. I just think it is extremely destructive when used for a method of control for right wing reactionary hierarchies. Which is why I advocate against reactionary ideologies and not any specific religion. As someone that grew up in a Christian cult in the deep South I find it’s really odd when those same people will fearmonger against Muslims and “Sharia Law!”. It’s like, dude, you guys literally advocate for the equivalent of “Christian” Sharia Law every day. Stop trying to “cure” gay and trans kids.
I’ve heard of these. What were some take aways?
This reddit post has one of the books popular with the creationist homeschoolers. But, honestly, the history books were far worse. Basically white supremacy and American history but from the perspective of it being proposed by God and a positive thing.
Trail of Tears and Manifest Destiny being God making way for his people. And not just a massive genocide of indigenous people.
Looking back. I’d say most textbooks I read besides Math I had to unlearn. In some way. It’s basically 90% correct information but written to reach the complete opposite conclusions of reality.
I had to stop reading the thread cos it was making me furious. I’m really sorry you experienced that. Did you have to unlearn any things about yourself?
Ha, that’s a very deep question. Well, I grew up homeschooled in a religious cult in the deep South of Georgia USA. Now I’m 34 and a non religious engineer living in Washington State. Work with Communist, Anarchist, and LGBTQ groups. Just had my first kid with my wife that moved here from another country when she was 18. So, yeah, I’d say I unlearned basically everything about my childhood since then.
Two of my friends died from a Meth addiction (long after losing touch sadly). Three of my friends went to the military (all of which have PTSD). One of which is now very active in anti war protests (Gaza specifically). Others two are just braindead Joes. One of my friends moved to Florida and has 4 kids. (She’s doing well now I’d say). My two queer friends got out and are doing well. But the rest are still living in the cult as far as I know. Or joined some other offshoot of it.
Cults are self destructive to their youth and it’s why they always have to recruit so much. Last I heard the leader of it had Cancer so he’s hopefully dead by now. Ironic because the entire cult was focused on all diseases being rooted in your Sins. They apparently hid his cancer from the congregation for awhile and said he got sick from accidently pouring gasoline on himself from a leaking gas station pump. Suddenly all diseases were not rooted in sin when the pastor got sick. But only for him. Everyone else had “evil spirits” that needed to purged through a week long retreat that costs thousands of dollars.
Probably more info than you needed.
Edit: Looked it up. Dude is dead. Rest in Piss. Sadly looks like his Son in Law and Daughter run it now. Parasites. They’re apparently curing “identity crisis” in children now. Which is likely just abusing Trans kids.
That’s a horrible way to grow up, and you’ve done great getting out of it. Cults are horribly destructive and people forget that they control your life and how you think. It’s all coercive control, it’s insidious and powerful; the leader is just abusing on a big scale. I’m glad you survived …also as an lgbt person massive thanks for working for the community 🌈
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I read a really stupid one about a clubbing community. They randomly made a time machine. I can’t remember the name but I remember laughing at how fucking ridiculous it was.
Give and take by Adam Grant.
The book explains givers and takers and their stories in life and careers.
The problem is that all the stories about givers are about how they got screwed over and ended up not reaching their goals in life and not evolving their careers.
Well, not motivational for sure, but how realistic
That’s how I felt about it too
Often reality. There isn’t a career path that profits the rich that also allows you to just go out and help people.
Exactly!
Never finished it, but Watership Down. Got a few chapters in and decided I did not give a shit about the minutiae of a rabbit colonies lives.
I loooovveeed the film of that when I was a kid. So I will now pointlessly defend the book despite having never read it.
The book is very long. Maybe the film cut it down and helped it get to the point?
Could be
