Thereās this aura among certain people, usually the neurodivergent, where they believe that whatever is valued in their microcosm is what should be valued everywhere else. They think that any controversy is automatically solved in their favor. They get visibly upset whenever anything is successful that doesnāt align with their agenda. To them, itās not about balance. Itās not about diversity or variety. Itās about attacking anyone who disagrees with them untilā¦ well, they donāt stop. Itās incessant. They will brow-beat and tantrum-throw until they get what they want.
These people need to be put back in line. They donāt actually care about the art they corrupt; most of them donāt even play the games they criticize. Instead, itās about pushing their agenda and making sure anyone who goes against it is silenced (censored.)
Itās up to us, the regular people, to see things for what they are. They will try to drag us down rabbit holes. Their entire goal in life is to make people losers like them so they donāt feel so bad about being failures. You know, misery loves company and all that.
Itās sad this is what happened to the digital sphere. Itās shown me that the slippery slope isnāt a fallacy when applied to people with an agenda. They never wanted āequality.ā They always wanted superiority. āEqualityā was just a guise they hid under to gain legitimacy, and now that they have it they arenāt stopping.
Glad I didnāt waste my money on this hamstrung garbage. Iām glad old games still hold up to this day and are better than most of the trite put out by modern ādevelopers.ā Really puts into perspective who the good artists are, and who just wants to corrupt other peopleās art for their own gain.
Itās fine to have gay representation. Even trans representation is acceptable. The problem is that these people want it to be āpreferableā to play the game as a gay or transperson. Itās why they praise queer characters but shun any attractive females. They want sex only to sell to ātheirā people and no one else. Itās an agenda, but thankfully it hasnāt been too successful in changing the landscape.
While itās unfortunate we get these bad games instead of good ones, Iām glad theyāre being panned accordingly for the drivel that they are.
Dragon Age: Origins is still one of my favorite game of all time. Really wish we couldāve had a whole series of them, but oh well. At least we got shit.
Edit: The responses to this were to be expected, and of course do not change my views at all. Instead, I think itās very telling of human psychology. Just as with marijuana users who are fine with banning tobacco and other drugs because itās not the drugs ātheyā use, we see people who have historically been marginalized and belittled fine with marginalizing and belittling others. It really is bigger than the topic at hand. This is an aspect of most peopleās personas that they have no shame in and make no attempts to overcome.
itās sad. Most people really are shit and enjoy hating others for liking different things.
I mean youāve seen how trump and fasc friends are pissing themselves over āwokeā and ādeiā if you canāt see the connection between the two, I genuinely feel sorry for you, and I do believe that if you apply reasoning to this you can see the influence from right wing heads and their broader effect on people being unjustifiably scared of things like diversity. Their hate has a trickle down effect, and it gets regurgitated and applied to every day things. I hope you take some time for retrospection.
Right. Trump was specifically talking about Dragon Age and Mass Effect when he said those things.
He was specifically referring to diluting art to appease people like you and he thinks thereās no good romance options for straight males in Dragon Age anymore.
Lol. Glad we could have this talk.
I guess if Iām against the removal of good romance options for straight males in video games, then I must be allied with trump in your mind. I genuinely believe this is how delusional you have become.
I never said that.
How is it diluting art? Iād genuinely appreciate how you think that is the case, do only straight white men make art?
How are there āno good romance optionsā? Are there 0 hetero options in Dragon Age?
What makes a āgood romance options?ā Are you unable to pretend, or not care like others have for decades?
Iām glad you asked! They are diluting art because creators are de-facto barred from including options in their games that appeal to straight males. Options such as Morrigan. You people say you get upset over āconstantlyā hearing complaints like mine, but what about the constant complaints over characters like Morrigan and even Quiet from MGS5?
I guess you donāt care about those complaints because you donāt actually want equality. You want superiority.
This has a knock-on effect where once their hands are tied in one aspect to avoid āoffendingā the āwrongā people, they become crippled in other parts such as gore and gameplay. It becomes an effort to streamline and homogenize as much as possible so we end up with the same āsafeā art every time.
Without getting too much into the subjectiveness of this, I hope that using Morrigan as an example and comparing her to the current options should highlight what Iām talking about (unless you want to be willfully ignorant.) Leilana could be a better example, but thatās depending on how you see it ;)
Inquisition had 1 decent romance option in my mind, and it was locked behind DLC. (this is for me, personally.) People like to rave about Cassandra, but sheās kind of a word Iām not allowed to use here without getting censored. Not that thatās a bad thing, (well, the censorship is), but she does not have comparable appeal to that of Morrigan, Leilana, or even the elf option from DA2 (I forget her name.)
Well, itās a pretty big appeal for a game like Dragon Age or Mass Effect that expects me to insert myself into the world. Itās very disingenuous for you to even be making this argument against me. I couldāve said the same thing to people wanting more queer romance options, and youād call me a bigot before censoring me.
So what youāre saying is this is how you feel, because itās not real, video games makers are still making characters that appeal visually to straight males. And no one is stopping them from making scantily clad women in games.
Iāve looked at your examples of characters and there is nothing wrong or unrealistic about their design.
Itās not disingenuous, itās a very real fact that for years there was 0 option for people in the queer community to have any form or representation in games. You argument is a false equivalence, because itās only been recent that theyāve had representation.
You want scantily clad women to romance in a video game, thatās fine you do you. Others want realistic examples of humans, that is fine too. It doesnāt ruin a game, or immersion to have human looking characters in a game. Maybe it ruins YOUR immersion, but thatās on you, feel free to mod your games, the sex appeal of a character might be important for you, but to blame diversity of character on sjw āruiningā a game is disingenuous.
Theyāre not making them at bioware anymore, which is what this thread is about.
Itās disingenuous because when they had no option, people can and did tell them ānot to careā like youāre telling me ānot to careā right now when I donāt have options. Youāre being a hypocrite and itās to be expected. Sad watching you double-down on it though, but again itās to be expected.
Yeah. People make the same arguments about queers wanting more options in games. We call them bigots and censor them though. Funny watching how quickly you resort to their tactics when it suits your agenda.
Itās not diversity of character. Itās a lack of diversity. Options are being removed because they āoffend the wrong people,ā i.e. people who throw fits at the idea of a character like Morrigan as a part of their āsocial justice war.ā
That is entirely subjective, itās how you feel, itās not a āfactā
It is disingenuous because they are in a minority position, and including options that appeal to them doesnāt take away from there being female characters you can romance, even though they arenāt attractive to your tastes, itās subjective. Iām not being a hypocrite, you argued a false equivalence.
No there are still women character for you to romance that was never taken away you just donāt find them attractive. Again youāre comparing apples and oranges here.
Again subjective options arenāt being āremovedā you could easily argue they are being added, by diversifying their characters, and by making them realistic.
Thanks for proving my point. I know you will never stop until I do, so Iām going to ignore you now and move on.
Youāre never going to admit you donāt want equality, because that gets in the way of your quest for superiority.
Goodbye. Iām sorry you think itās okay to be like those who argue against queer representation in video games, but I honestly canāt expect more from you people at this point.
You may have the last word.
Who said that?
Iām arguing for equality
Iām not though. Curious as to what āyou peopleā refer to.
I was genuinely trying to have a good faith argument with you. Iām sorry you couldnāt see that. All the best to you!