Don’t know about anyone else, but I was thinking they are an excellent, versatile and easily prepared protein source, dense with nutrients, which does not involve the taking of a life.
Edit: I’d been thinking of dumping social media entirely, due to the discouraging number of trolls, self-righteous moralists, snarks and ideologues, but thought it would be reddit that went – it really has become depressing to consider the future if redditors are indicative. Guess it’s not just reddit, mmm?
For the amusement of folk jumping to firm conclusions, I have raised chickens, lived on the Indian subcontinent (and you left out the fate of the Eid cows among Muslims – the streets run with blood), eat a lot of beans, and will remember in future that it is wisest to stick to my own company rather than set off people who don’t think I know how to use a search engine.
Chickens are just fragile anyway even free range. Go ahead and try to raise your own and tally up how many die between sexing to get female chicks and just environmental deaths. Of note, I’m no vegan, but the idea that egg eating is somehow morally superior to meat eating is kind of silly to me. Like milk, the things you do to create the conditions to collect plenty of it ain’t without harm and death.
It’d frankly be pretty wasteful to raise eggs or milk without occasionally eating whatever you cull. See India’s starving abandoned urban cattle eating trash for a practical example of that.
Edit; OP deleted their account citing me as a major reason when I never even replied to them, lol. Some folks get defensive about the damnedest things.
I remember my wife got hired by a neighbor to check on their backyard chickens for the weekend when they went out of town. She ended up slightly traumatized because one of them got eaten by a hawk or something between checks.
Weird to cite Indian cattle eating garbage as the example since they’re revered and autonomous due to Hindu faith. That’s as they intended and has nothing to do with farming.
It has everything to do with farming. Indian states can’t cull cattle by slaughter but produce an immense amount of milk and have female productive cows having a male calf roughly every 36 months(really less than that, but we’ll be conservative). Where the hell do you think these male calves are going if they can’t be slaughtered or killed? They’re largely “naturally” removed by starvation and dehydration. Real humane. They’re certainly not all ending up in sanctuaries. Same with the majority of unproductive female cattle. With a productive cow producing a calf roughly every year over their four to five year production period and the natural lifespan being around 20 years there’s a mathematical problem here that results in starving urban cattle. That or we entirely replace India’s human population with cattle.
There is definitely less chickens being killed per gram of protein of egg compared to meat so I don’t want to attack you, but there are a lot of chickens being killed because of how the industry is organised. I googled this for you:
"Typically, layer hens are killed after about a year of laying due to a decrease in their productivity. Because these hens are raised as a group with other birds of the same age, productivity can be evaluated on a group basis and not based on the individual bird. For this reason, even if an individual bird is still producing well they may still be culled simply because their cohort of hens has dropped in productivity.
… there are two different kinds of chickens: those raised for their meat and those raised to produce eggs. In chickens raised for meat, also known as “broiler” chickens, there is no differentiation based on sex, as these chickens are not generally allowed to live long enough to produce eggs. When it comes to birds raised for laying eggs, male chicks are unable to lay eggs, so serve no purpose in the industrial system that has produced them. Male chicks are routinely killed before they can grow to be more than a few days old." (https://www.farmforward.com/issues/animal-welfare/chick-culling/)
If you’d like to take less life’s, consider adding beans to your diet.
Don’t know about anyone else, but I was thinking they are an excellent, versatile and easily prepared protein source, dense with nutrients, which does not involve the taking of a life.
Edit: I’d been thinking of dumping social media entirely, due to the discouraging number of trolls, self-righteous moralists, snarks and ideologues, but thought it would be reddit that went – it really has become depressing to consider the future if redditors are indicative. Guess it’s not just reddit, mmm?
For the amusement of folk jumping to firm conclusions, I have raised chickens, lived on the Indian subcontinent (and you left out the fate of the Eid cows among Muslims – the streets run with blood), eat a lot of beans, and will remember in future that it is wisest to stick to my own company rather than set off people who don’t think I know how to use a search engine.
Tata.
Ohh but ii absolutely does involve taking many lifes These chickens do not tend to live long as they are cruelty breeds.
Get some chickens.
Chickens are just fragile anyway even free range. Go ahead and try to raise your own and tally up how many die between sexing to get female chicks and just environmental deaths. Of note, I’m no vegan, but the idea that egg eating is somehow morally superior to meat eating is kind of silly to me. Like milk, the things you do to create the conditions to collect plenty of it ain’t without harm and death.
It’d frankly be pretty wasteful to raise eggs or milk without occasionally eating whatever you cull. See India’s starving abandoned urban cattle eating trash for a practical example of that.
Edit; OP deleted their account citing me as a major reason when I never even replied to them, lol. Some folks get defensive about the damnedest things.
I remember my wife got hired by a neighbor to check on their backyard chickens for the weekend when they went out of town. She ended up slightly traumatized because one of them got eaten by a hawk or something between checks.
Weird to cite Indian cattle eating garbage as the example since they’re revered and autonomous due to Hindu faith. That’s as they intended and has nothing to do with farming.
It has everything to do with farming. Indian states can’t cull cattle by slaughter but produce an immense amount of milk and have female productive cows having a male calf roughly every 36 months(really less than that, but we’ll be conservative). Where the hell do you think these male calves are going if they can’t be slaughtered or killed? They’re largely “naturally” removed by starvation and dehydration. Real humane. They’re certainly not all ending up in sanctuaries. Same with the majority of unproductive female cattle. With a productive cow producing a calf roughly every year over their four to five year production period and the natural lifespan being around 20 years there’s a mathematical problem here that results in starving urban cattle. That or we entirely replace India’s human population with cattle.
There is definitely less chickens being killed per gram of protein of egg compared to meat so I don’t want to attack you, but there are a lot of chickens being killed because of how the industry is organised. I googled this for you:
"Typically, layer hens are killed after about a year of laying due to a decrease in their productivity. Because these hens are raised as a group with other birds of the same age, productivity can be evaluated on a group basis and not based on the individual bird. For this reason, even if an individual bird is still producing well they may still be culled simply because their cohort of hens has dropped in productivity.
… there are two different kinds of chickens: those raised for their meat and those raised to produce eggs. In chickens raised for meat, also known as “broiler” chickens, there is no differentiation based on sex, as these chickens are not generally allowed to live long enough to produce eggs. When it comes to birds raised for laying eggs, male chicks are unable to lay eggs, so serve no purpose in the industrial system that has produced them. Male chicks are routinely killed before they can grow to be more than a few days old." (https://www.farmforward.com/issues/animal-welfare/chick-culling/)
If you’d like to take less life’s, consider adding beans to your diet.
Here is another article: Eat Beans, Not Beings—10 Reasons to Stock Up on This Superfood https://www.peta2.com/lifestyle/beans/
They also have environmentally friendly packaging.
Uh https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chick_culling
We kill like 7 billion chicks annually because they are male and therefore can’t produce eggs.
I agree with you on the other points, but our farming industry is bonkers and full of killing.
Perhaps if you only buy your eggs from a local farmer or produce them yourself, but due to capitalism that’s not an option for every person
you’re going to be disappointed with the whole doesn’t involve taking a life thing, at least I hope you will be.
Yup, we kill billions of bacteria when we cook those delicious gametes.