• turtle [he/him]@lemm.eeEnglish
    81·
    4 days ago

    There is also:

    I’m not too keen on Piefed because it’s written in Python, which is multiple times less than Rust (what Lemmy is written in) for a server back-end application. It just seems like a waste of electricity or adding more carbon to the atmosphere than it should, for a widely-used server application.

    Edit: “less [performant]” - missed a word there.

    • Elevator7009@ani.socialEnglish
      3·
      2 days ago

      I’ve come off seeing a lot of people express dissent in a rather acidic manner, so I just appreciate that you have stated an opposing view in a way that is informative, and a lot less “anyone who disagrees is [bad thing]”, “I will say that anyone who approves of [thing I don’t] masturbates to it as a way to be hurtful and insulting”, “you disagree? I will position you as overly emotional and myself as the realist by saying ‘Cope’”, etc.

      You’ve made me curious about various programming languages’ efficiency, specifically in how choice of language might affect resource consumption. Not just CPU cycles but carbon and electricity. And I’m actually going to look into it instead of feeling put off enough by vitriol that I just wash my hands of the entire disagreement and walk away. +1, this is how you disagree online.

      Yes, I may be venting my feelings about seeing too many people being mean online.

      • turtle [he/him]@lemm.eeEnglish
        2·
        1 day ago

        Thanks for your thoughtful reply! I feel similarly about mean replies online, which is why I usually try not to contribute to that trend. If nothing else, I at least try not to escalate arguments.

        Regarding programming languages’ efficiency, it’s a pretty interesting topic to consider in this time of climate change. There can be trade-offs like for example in the case of Python vs. Rust, while you gain a lot in terms of performance and resource utilization with Rust, you lose a lot in terms of development speed, from what I understand (I have not programmed with Rust yet, nor any large projects with Python). I hope that more programmers begin to consider these factors when picking a language to develop with.

        Take care.

      • turtle [he/him]@lemm.eeEnglish
        2·
        4 days ago

        I didn’t look at the details of those three communities before posting them. I was just pointing out what I had found on a search. I don’t mind lemmy.ml. and prefer it over lemmy.world, but I can understand that some people don’t like .ml. I’m glad that you and others are creating alternatives to .world communities anyway.

        I figure that Mbin is not too bad, since PHP seems to be quite a bit faster than Python too.

  • rglullis@communick.newsEnglish
    5·
    5 days ago

    Alright, so I just learned about !fediverse@forum.wedistribute.org. It’s a NodeBB instance run by the WeDistribute team, led by @deadsuperhero@lemmy.world and it can interoperate with Lemmy and Mastodon and the mbin family of software.

    Can we agree that it is a better fit than any of the existing alternatives?

    • Blaze (he/him) @lemmy.dbzer0.comOPEnglish
      41·
      6 days ago

      lemmy.zip

      I was hoping to get that one to become the LW alternative, but after the mod asked me to become a mod and I declined, but suggested to create a meta post to call for more mods, they told me they prefer to not have meta posts on that community.

      Well, fine, you make the rules, I guess I’ll post somewhere else.

      Note that this was also why !globalnews@lemmy.zip and !world@quokk.au never consolidated, the mods of both communities just wanted to keep theirs

      • bonjour@feddit.orgEnglish
        41·
        5 days ago

        they told me they prefer to not have meta posts on that community

        I hope you dragged them into one of your beloved drama communities for that. The nerve of some people to have a disagreement with you.

        • Blaze (he/him) @lemmy.dbzer0.comOPEnglish
          2·
          5 days ago

          You believe that communities shouldn’t have meta posts calling for more mods when there’s only one and that person is willing to offer someone else a mod position?

          • bonjour@feddit.orgEnglish
            41·
            5 days ago

            You made it seem like they were asking people in private, i don’t really see anything wrong with that. Your new fediverse community also only has one mod btw.

            • Blaze (he/him) @lemmy.dbzer0.comOPEnglish
              2·
              5 days ago

              Then feel free to join them on their community.

              Your new fediverse community also only has one mod btw.

              Indeed, it’s not even 12 hours old. I just asked the mod to create a meta post to add more mods, it should be there in a few hours

              • bonjour@feddit.orgEnglish
                31·
                5 days ago

                Sweet. Sounds like snoopy is being a bit more obedient towards you then 😆

                • Snoopy@piefed.socialEnglish
                  41·
                  5 days ago

                  Really ? Well on jlai.lu we try to have at least 2 mods per community. That’s not aways the case but we regulary do meta post to recruit moderators and encourage collaborative work. :)

                  For fediverse community, i will probably look around what we already do and try something different :)

                • Blaze (he/him) @lemmy.dbzer0.comOPEnglish
                  21·
                  5 days ago

                  Everyone here is collaborating. Someone else asked me to pin a post on !fedibridge@lemmy.dbzer0.com , I did: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/40519876/17550521

                  I’m not sure why you seem to think I’m like an evil puppet master plotting and manipulating everyone. This community’s objective is to organize and collaborate to make communities grow. Having communities too centralized on one instance to the point that another instance has a 3 days delay goes against that. Having completely identical communities active at the same time on the same topic splinters conversation.

                  There’s nothing more than that.

  • rglullis@communick.newsEnglish
    2·
    5 days ago

    All this shuffling around for circumstantial reasons gets tiring and confusing.

    Instead of spending all this time and energy trying to coordinate large-scale movements it would be a lot easier to just create a separate instance to be the home of the communities and have a neutral ground.

    • Blaze (he/him) @lemmy.dbzer0.comOPEnglish
      41·
      5 days ago

      Feel free to stay on LW if you prefer

      I prefer to have a community where aussie.zone doesn’t have a 3 days delay

      just create a separate instance to be the home of the communities and have a neutral ground.

      Who manages that instance? How do you prevent power tripping?

      • rglullis@communick.newsEnglish
        2·
        5 days ago

        I prefer to have a community where aussie.zone doesn’t have a 3 days delay

        Yeah, a community on a topic-specific instances would never cause that, because it would only be a small number of activities.

        Who manages that instance?

        You. You can go to elest.io and create your own instance.

        If you worry about costs, I’ll be sure to contribute with a few cents per month. ;)

        How do you prevent power tripping?

        How do you prevent power tripping in the community you want to move to?

        • Blaze (he/him) @lemmy.dbzer0.comOPEnglish
          1·
          5 days ago

          Yeah, a community on a topic-specific instances would never cause that, because it would only be a small number of activities.

          Lemm.ee has 7k monthly active users and several very active communities, without delays. The only instance having delays is LW.

          You. You can go to elest.io and create your own instance.

          Why would I?

          How do you prevent power tripping in the community you want to move to?

          You have a diverse set of mods with good track record. There’s only one at the moment, but more will come once the community gets more active.

          • rglullis@communick.newsEnglish
            2·
            5 days ago

            The only instance having delays is LW.

            It’s not a problem with LW but aussie.zone taking too long to respond to the data being pushed. There are instances on the US that fixed this by taking initiative and setting up a system that would active pull the data from LW to keep in sync.

            Why would I?

            Because you are the most invested in getting people out of LW, and because you don’t trust other people that set up topic-based instances?

            diverse set of mods with good track record.

            Why wouldn’t this be possible in a separate instance? Is the motivation to volunteer to mod in a community attached to the instance where it’s hosted?

            • Blaze (he/him) @lemmy.dbzer0.comOPEnglish
              31·
              5 days ago

              It’s not a problem with LW but aussie.zone taking too long to respond to the data being pushed. There are instances on the US that fixed this by taking initiative and setting up a system that would active pull the data from LW to keep in sync.

              Geographical distance between Europe and Australia is also at play.

              Because you are the most invested in getting people out of LW, and because you don’t trust other people that set up topic-based instances?

              I trust the admins of the topic-based instances hosting the following communities, so I’m not sure what you mean?

              Why wouldn’t this be possible in a separate instance?

              Ah, sorry, I wasn’t complete above: I meant a diverse set of mods and admins

              • rglullis@communick.newsEnglish
                2·
                5 days ago

                Geographical distance between Europe and Australia

                Only because aussie.zone is relying exclusive on waiting the data to be pushed. If they pulled the data in bulk, latency would not be an issue and the problem would be immediately solved.

                topic-based instances hosting the following communities

                Aside from mander.xyz, the other instances are not topic-specific. They have communities which are focused of a more general scope, and its users are not focused on conversations around an exclusive topic.

                Anyhow, the point is: as of yet, there is no one running an instance focused on Fediverse news and discussion. Wouldn’t it be nice if you, I don’t know, volunteered to do so?

                Ah, sorry, I wasn’t complete above: I meant a diverse set of mods and admins

                I am sure you can find people to help you co-admin the instance as well, if you set one up.

                • Lodion 🇦🇺@aussie.zoneEnglish
                  4·
                  5 days ago

                  That isn’t how lemmy and the activitypub protocol work. Source instance pushes metadata about new content, remote instance then needs to pull it. If we’ve not received the push yet, we can’t pull the additional info.

                • Blaze (he/him) @lemmy.dbzer0.comOPEnglish
                  41·
                  5 days ago

                  Only because aussie.zone is relying exclusive on waiting the data to be pushed. If they pulled the data in bulk, latency would not be an issue and the problem would be immediately solved.

                  Hello, @lodion@aussie.zone @Nath@aussie.zone was this an option you were aware of?

                  Aside from mander.xyz, the other instances are not topic-specific. They have communities which are focused of a more general scope, and its users are not focused on conversations around an exclusive topic.

                  How are programming.dev and lemdro.id not topic specific? It’s in their names

                  Anyhow, the point is: as of yet, there is no one running an instance focused on Fediverse news and discussion. Wouldn’t it be nice if you, I don’t know, volunteered to do so?

                  You want to go back to the "is sysadmin more volunteering than community building ?

                  First, as the last post on https://metacritics.zone/ was seven days ago, wouldn’t it also be nice if you volunteered some of your time to keep your communities and instances active?

                  Second, I got another admin recently who told me that I should just stop discussing with you. Maybe I should.

                  I am sure you can find people to help you co-admin the instance as well, if you set one up.

                  As stated above, I’m as interested as sysadmining than you are in community building