• davel@lemmy.ml
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        I suspect they’d prefer that he die in prison over there, but if not then in prison over here. I don’t think they want to ever take this to trial, because it’s been a farce from the start.

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          They literally dropped all the potentially credible charges they were first going for. Those women in Sweden? Long gone, as of 5 years ago. Hillary Clinton’s emails? Also dropped.

          What really sucks is that the narrative has changed over years, as the facts have been forgotten. People think he’s been in league with Russia, and some even think Russia provided him with evidence against Republicans alongside the Democrat emails, and that he refused to publish the Republican stuff in support of Russia so that Russia’s man (Trump) could get in the White House.

          First off, Russia wouldn’t provide Republican emails if they were trying to get a Republican inside the White House (they didn’t provide any such emails and they did promote Trump). Second, the controversy as about Wikileaks not publishing details of Russian corruption. While this is definitely controversial (and frankly something I disagree with), Wikileaks’ reasoning was simply: “Russian corruption is not news, it is to be expected”.

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            Those two women from Sweden were not prostitutes (and even if, it wouldn’t matter) and have themselves backtracked from pressing charges. They are also victims of this entire farce and have been instrumentalized.

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              Fair point, I meant to change that before I posted. I think I was getting confused with Trump and the prostitutes that peed on him.

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      Does the uk not have a law against executions and if so would the not be breaking said law by extraditing him.

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        That’s exactly what they’re arguing here. However the US is trying to use a non-answer to avoid this, and in the past that’s worked.

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      Regardless of any judicial or legal red tape preventing that extradition, are we seriously operating under the assumption that the United States government would execute him?

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        are we seriously operating under the assumption that the United States government would execute him?

        Legally, UK and EU courts must consider this, because sending someone to a country where they will be executed for their crimes is a breach of human rights.

        By the strict reading of the law, he could be extradited for life in prison. If he was being extradited to be sentenced to death, that would be a no go.

        The US are skirting and pushing the bounds of UK law here. Unfortunately, they will likely get away with it, because the English are pussies.

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      I don’t like Julian Assange, but I think that if he were found guilty of his crimes of espionage, that he has already served out more than a proportional sentence in exile.

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    Everytime someone says they don’t have anything to hide I ask them what the pin of their phone is and to give me their phone. Suddenly that’s something different…

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      I once asked a friend if he trusted the lock on his phone (brand new iPhone 15 Pro Max, latest and greatest). He told me he did. I asked him if I could use his phone while it was locked, and he told me “No, I don’t trust you. You would probably hack it or something.” That statement says two things:

      1. He only cares about attacks on privacy on a personal level, which is the mental flaw lots of people have.

      2. He doesn’t actually trust the lock on his phone, but refuses to admit it.

      By the way, here’s a few fun gimmicks you can pull on iPhone users:

      1. See if you can swipe left to view widgets on the lock screen. I was able to get someone’s address this way. He told me the whole time “There’s nothing you can find there.” and then afterwards said “Ah, crap.”

      2. If there is a lock screen mini widget (under the time) for a clock or related feature, tap on it and it will open the clock app. You can also get there if you can swipe down to access control center if the “timer” button is enabled there. You can then make it look like you unlocked their phone, and start reading off their alarm names. This one has freaked out a lot of people.

      3. If they realize how you got there and try disabling control center access on the lock screen (as they should, FaceID is fast enough people!), you can see if you can access Siri and say “View my alarms”.

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        I can see why your friend would assume you could hack their phone based on how specific these steps are.

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        Me: graphene phone with notifications hidden until unlocked. No voice assistant whatsoever. I guess the only thing you can do is take pictures from lock screen but that’s not really useful. It doesn’t show gallery of previous photos.

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          Even default android has such settings. I can view what song I’m listening to, take new photos and theoretically take short notes(haven’t figured out how it works) and that’s it. Also since I disabled the Google assistant, they can’t do anything with it too.

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              I disabled the speech detection and the button underneath my volume control. If I tap my home button for to long it still activates, but I don’t use it.

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      There is a difference between having nothing to hide and not closing the door when talking a shit

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        What I’m hearing is that people have an inert desire for privacy, EVEN if they don’t have anything to hide (what are you hiding in the toilet?) I don’t see why that wouldn’t extend into the digital realm…

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        A right to privacy? Not in my country, thank you very much.

        The government has every right to watch you take a shit and if you don’t acknowledge that then you must be conspiring to deprive us of our freedoms.

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    Say whatever you want, Snowden’s a fucking hero for sharing this.

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    A ‘State’ is not inherently bad. That’s just libertarian propaganda/dogma. Self-interested psychopaths in charge of a state is bad…

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    Putin Alert! Putin Alert! This guy supports Vladimir Putin! He is undermining the US so that the Russians can invade! Also, the Chinese! Also the… uh… Cubans? Venezuelans? Quebecians? Idk, but its bad! They’re coming to take your freedom! Protect the NSA! PROTECT THE NSA! THEY STAND BETWEEN YOU AND TYRANNY!

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    Nothing to hide…

    It’s the same reason I don’t support free speach: I’ve got nothing to say.

    /s

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    I mean…the state does have legitimate things to hide beyond their spying programs. Not every person that spills government secrets is as careful as Snowden.