There is a coup occurring now

  • Grimy@lemmy.world
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    11 hours ago

    It’s not a coup if it’s not against the Leadership of a sovereign nation

    I don’t think that’s a prerequisite. We talk of military coups all the time and most of them are thoroughly domestic affaires.

    That doesn’t detract from the rest of what you said however.

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      11 hours ago

      you’re confusing the words sovereign and domestic in a way I don’t understand. again, a coup is the illegal taking and transferring of power from the leader of a sovereign nation to someone or a group of someone’s not duly empowered to assume that role. that’s not what’s transpiring currently. but we sure as shit are in the middle of a constitutional crisis between the executive branch and the legislative branch.

      • TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com
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        11 hours ago

        This is not a courtroom, and your prescriptive weasel words are tiresome.

        This is a coup that started January 6, 2021, and is continuing now.

    • Kichae@lemmy.ca
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      10 hours ago

      Trump cannot commit a coup, because he is already the head of state. Military coups occur when military generals step in to illegally claim the abilities of the head of state (or government) from someone else who had them legally.

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        3 hours ago

        There are many types of coup, it’s not limited to military coup. If Trump stays, it’s called a self coup.

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        6 hours ago

        Per the Constitution, the US government is comprised of 3 co-equal branches. The Executive Branch is only one branch, not the government itself, so technically its taking over of the entire government could be looked at as a coup. So far the other two branches are either cooperating (legislative) or sitting idly by (judicial), so we don’t know yet whether this is a coup by the executive or just the entire government saying fuck the Constitution, we’re done with that.

        You could also say, since this is supposed to be a government of the people, by the people, and for the people, that it is a coup against the people–but the problem there is that, assuming the election wasn’t interfered with, “the people” elected this government.