It is not my intention to be rude. I’m from Colombia, follow Venezuela’s status closely (from media on a broad range of the political spectrum) see Venezuelan emmigrants daily and have met quite a few Venezuelans, and yet Lemmy is the only place I’ve ever seen with people really convinced that Venezuelans love Maduro, and the current situation of the country is because of the sanctions.
It feels almost surreal, and reminds me when some people on Reddit were convinced they knew better than me what’s my country’s political status, all while mistakenly calling the country “Columbia”.
I’m not trying to argue that you should blindly trust my opinions here, but really, really, Venezuela is in a bad spot, nobody likes Maduro’s dictatorship, and the sanctions are not the main causes of any of that (but they do help). Either that or somehow almost everybody in whole Latin American has a very biased opinion from first-hand experiences, and only people from other continents can see that.
It’s laughable to argue that the main source of their economic issues are not the sanctions.
This tells me that you are not arguing in good faith.
You being from Columbia and having met a few Venezuelan immigrants is anecdotal evidence.
I also am friends and know some Venezuelan immigrants.
If someone who went to Harvard and has a trust fund leaves the United States and they tell foreigners what it was like for them growing up, how similar to the average American is their experience… not very similar at all…
We can help the guy from Harvard but his lived experience is not the absolute truth of all Americans……
This is what I mean.
Likewise, if someone was born an orphan in a bankrupt church, their lived experience is not all Americans lived experience…
Edit: it’s also somewhat reasonable to assume that maduro supporters would not be leaving the country
Ok so we can assume the dozen coup attempts by the us government have nothing to do with this at all, gotcha….
Again, whatever country you are from your anecdotal experience and evidence is valid but also anecdotal. We are both obviously influenced by propaganda on this particular issue but again whatever country you are from if I got it wrong and you think that was the most important thing? When we are talking about Venezuela? Really? Does your neck have a ring of shit around it? Serious questions need answers
Edit: I already know the answer to one of these questions
It is not my intention to be rude. I’m from Colombia, follow Venezuela’s status closely (from media on a broad range of the political spectrum) see Venezuelan emmigrants daily and have met quite a few Venezuelans, and yet Lemmy is the only place I’ve ever seen with people really convinced that Venezuelans love Maduro, and the current situation of the country is because of the sanctions.
It feels almost surreal, and reminds me when some people on Reddit were convinced they knew better than me what’s my country’s political status, all while mistakenly calling the country “Columbia”.
I’m not trying to argue that you should blindly trust my opinions here, but really, really, Venezuela is in a bad spot, nobody likes Maduro’s dictatorship, and the sanctions are not the main causes of any of that (but they do help). Either that or somehow almost everybody in whole Latin American has a very biased opinion from first-hand experiences, and only people from other continents can see that.
It’s laughable to argue that the main source of their economic issues are not the sanctions.
This tells me that you are not arguing in good faith.
You being from Columbia and having met a few Venezuelan immigrants is anecdotal evidence.
I also am friends and know some Venezuelan immigrants.
If someone who went to Harvard and has a trust fund leaves the United States and they tell foreigners what it was like for them growing up, how similar to the average American is their experience… not very similar at all…
We can help the guy from Harvard but his lived experience is not the absolute truth of all Americans……
This is what I mean.
Likewise, if someone was born an orphan in a bankrupt church, their lived experience is not all Americans lived experience…
Edit: it’s also somewhat reasonable to assume that maduro supporters would not be leaving the country
You missed the entire point of the comment by incorrectly calling my country “Columbia”. I don’t even know what to say.
Let’s not waste any of our time and go ask in any Venezuelan forum about the topic.
Ok so we can assume the dozen coup attempts by the us government have nothing to do with this at all, gotcha….
Again, whatever country you are from your anecdotal experience and evidence is valid but also anecdotal. We are both obviously influenced by propaganda on this particular issue but again whatever country you are from if I got it wrong and you think that was the most important thing? When we are talking about Venezuela? Really? Does your neck have a ring of shit around it? Serious questions need answers
Edit: I already know the answer to one of these questions
Nice dodging of all points in the previous post!
Just a thought but in democracies people don’t tend to emigrate when the “other side” wins the election.
I can only assume you are a bot or a person who only consumes corporate media and state department propaganda, so 50/50 your either a bot or a bot.
Correct. I am a bot which only get my news from the tankie triad so I know it is unbiased, factual and objective. Beep boop.
I knew it!