• blargerer@kbin.social
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    9 months ago

    He is undeniably awful on some issues, however if you look at everything that’s happened under him, I think you’ll be surprised how much, lets say his people, have started to pull the US out of a 40 year old Reagan shaped hole.

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      Sure, he’s made some good cabinet appointments, but I guarantee that, for example, the excellent Lauren McFerran who’s been doing a great job at NLRB wasn’t his idea.

      Party loyalists like the twitter troll Neera Tanden, unprincipled opportunists like Pete Buttigieg and conservatives like Merrick Garland are much more Biden’s speed.

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        Ok exactly the fucking point. McFerran wasn’t bidens idea, because he isnt obsessed with “oNLy tHe BEsT PeOpLE” who weirdly he has to be related to or owe money or who went on fucking infowars to praise him. There is ROOM for expertise and reasonable suggestions.

        I would take any one of the people who are “bidens speed” over the muck eating, grifting, shitbird appoinents trump made.

        Summarizing, you’re right and still full of shit lol.

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          I would take any one of the people who are “bidens speed” over the muck eating, grifting, shitbird appoinents trump made.

          Sure, but the bar is “good choices”, not “better choices than Trump”. Either of my two cats could clear the latter bar any day and, adorable as they are, my cats are NOT qualified for the position of POTUS.

          Summarizing, you’re right and still full of shit lol.

          Right back at you.

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              9 months ago

              True, but at which point do we stop meekly agreeing to support the lesser evil and start demanding to have options that aren’t evil?

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                It happens by progressively showing strength of the party platform that a continued shift away from conservative bs is electable. The last few years has been powerful in continuing that trend after Biden was elected. Overturning women’s rights has blown up in republicans faces. Their hyped red wave a couple years ago turned out to be bs. A large number, not enough, but still a large number of gerrymandered maps have been overturned in courts after years of lawsuits, with additional ones still actively being fought in courts around the US. There are real progressive democrats dedicating their lives to fighting this stuff. If the trend continues to show that progressives will start taking control of the elections and safeguard democracy the progressive shift will show that a platform foundation exists for representatives to support those platforms. Without it they are stuck relying on independent voters filling the gaps and trying to bridge the gap between liberal and conservative enough that they secure as many independents as possible and come out ahead. Their isn’t enough strict support on the Democratic side to get elected as an ideal candidate and it’s not going to get there in a single cycle but we are four years into wins year over year and my personal opinion is if Biden wins handily and the house and senate make major strides this year it will not only enable more effective changes in policy, even though I feel Biden has far exceeded expectations, it will largely be due to disadvantage and youth voters and start to show that portion of the population as a more reliable vote to run a platform on which could be the beginning of a radical shift in how this country is run, in a good way. The liberal voter base needs a reliable foundation in order to support policies that folks like to bitch about otherwise your going to get politicians that have to try catering to the independent voter base and republicans as the only ones holding office.

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                At the point that the demand doesn’t elect the greater evil?

                Go ahead and don’t vote, boy that will sure show the establishement… Nothing. Or vote against your interests to teach them a lesson! Oh wait, that’s like punching yourself in the face.

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                  9 months ago

                  When will that be? At what point will it not be Democrat vs Republican if people keep voting for Democrats or Republicans? Genuinely would like to hear your solution.

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                    The actions to take on election day and the solutions long term solutions are unrelated. I agree that the choices are usually shitty, but if you pick option 3 all you do is fuck yourself or the rest of us and make yourself look obnoxiously stupid.

                    Run for office to make it incrementally better. That’s what I’m doing.