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    The moon computer only had to keep track of 3 things to move a spaceship from the earth to the moon.

    Chrome has to keep track of thousands of pieces of your personal information to move money from advertisers to Google.

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      Chrome is the container housing that website the developer decided to include 15 libraries at 50 meg each because he couldn’t be bothered to optimize shit and that’s just “standard” now. Oh and tack on the 15 scripts running to mine your data and load unfiltered ads into your userspace.

      Get more ram pleb, it’s cheap… has been the excuse for ages. Makes it easy to ignore the problem.

      Don’t get me wrong- chrome is a pig… but in general it’s the dogshit-bad coding and development choices that turn even a small page into a massive footprint.

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        Exactly. There’s no pressure to optimize when you’ve got spare hardware capacity to play with. Makes for lazy devs.

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    I don’t believe it’s only chrome’s problem. I’ve noticed that firefox tends to lock all available memory to himself and whenever I need it, bastard just reallocates it into swap, making whole system laggy and slow.

    So… I’ve got my foxy friend into a Ram jail for being too hungry:
    systemd-run --scope -p MemoryMax=1G --user firefox

    God, I love linux!

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      Almost like its the websites that are wildly bloated and resource hungry and the browsers are just trying to display them as best they can

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      I have never thought of this before, making a note. Because yeah, my FF has the same nast habit. Often using up 4+, 6+ or even more RAM.

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      I use FF on Manjaro and have never noticed a ram problem. I’ve also got it set up on a different virtual linux machine with only 2 gigs of memory and it works fine.

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    I think the main issue is with web pages. Seems instead of optimizing them nowadays they are just bloated to the vague level they think one can get away with in terms of average hardware run by the users.

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    I watched an amazing documentary on YouTube, made at the time of Apollo 11 that showed how the computers worked. It absolutely blew me away.

    The way they did so much with so little was incredible. There was no such thing as flashing firmware to a chip; they hard coded the bits and bytes by hand. BY HAND.

    That’s like hiring people to count the grains of sand on a beach. Amazing!

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      That’s like hiring people to count the grains of sand on a beach. Amazing!

      no it isn’t… they wove the memory… like weaving

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    I dont actually think thats true anymore.

    But even using Fedora Chromium, with like all policy switches set to degoogle, Googles removed as search engine, no online Account, Chromium still pings Google when

    • choosing Accounts (all offline)
    • loading the installed (!) Addons
    • going to settings
    • viewing the password manager (with everything GUI for Password checking etc disabled)

    I ran googerteller to check that

    sudo dnf install gcc make 
    git clone https://github.com/berthubert/googerteller.git
    cd googerteller
    cmake .
    make
    sudo tcpdump -nql | ./teller
    
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    I’m on a de-chromed chromebook (shout out to MrChromebox!) with 8 GB RAM as my daily driver. I use Chrome. I’ve no problems at all.

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      I’ve not seen FF leak memory on Windows or MacOS in many years. Can you please provide a link to the bug or some more info on this issue?

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        Yeah I don’t have this problem on Windows either but Chrome will chug endlessly through RAM

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      Linux user here, Firefox basically just stays open 24/7 are you sure it’s not an extension? Maybe something else?

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          Ok, and I’m sure you did uninstall reboot reinstall. Shit, I can’t think of what that can be. Any themes installed? I know that can count as extensions but in case you overlooked it I’m mentioning it. I haven’t seen this. Aside from a few things that I mentioned I can’t think of what would be causing it maybe try to redownload a fresh copy. Idk I’m in it I’m just trying to help.

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            No themes. And I did try all kinds of stuff. One thing for sure. Waterfox doesn’t do that for me so I’ve been using that. Maybe it was a windows issue at the time. (Maybe to push people to use edge. But that’s too much of a conspiracy theory.) Waterfox works without that issue on windows and Linux for me and my friend who also switched after the same issue. I appreciate you trying to help.

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        They don’t recognize it officially but people talk about all the time. It seems it’s because Firefox doesn’t have a tab freezing feature built in for inactive tabs so websites might have JavaScript errors that can cause this. There is literally a post on Firefox subreddit from 2 days ago with people talking about it. A friend of mine also recently finally caved and switched from Firefox to opera because his ram gradually got used more and more the longer he had Firefox open.