Trump’s legal team also tried to throw cold water on the idea in a filing earlier this week, writing that the “events of January 6 were not an ‘insurrection’ as they did not involve an organized attempt to overthrow or resist the U.S. government.”

Trump disagrees, apparently.

“They kept saying about what I said right after the insurrection,” he said outside Mar-a-Lago after arguments concluded in Washington, D.C. “I think it was an insurrection caused by Nancy Pelosi.

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      I really thought in 2016 Bernie would splinter the democrats and we’d have a true left party. I also thought trump would create a new party on the right and the republicans would go back to being republicans. Can you imagine a 4 party system!

      To my surprise, the trump dragged the republicans even further to the right, and the democrats moved even more center-right to appease ex-republicans. So the whole nation just moved right, which is sad.

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      What better options? What names are well known to people? What people that are well known can overcome incumbency bias? Do any have literal decades of experience in congress and the white house?

      I would have preferred Bernie but throwing out names only a small percentage of the electorate will know is a fools gamble. And the DNC using marketing to get them well know would have been a huge waste of times and resources to build someone up when there’s already a good candidate sitting in the oval office. You’re not going to throw out a sitting President unless he’s WILDLY unpopular.

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        Barack Obama wasn’t very well known when he ran for president t. And he won twice.

        I think the point is that both the Dems and GOP are pigeon-holing themselves by only allowing one candidate to run. Why does it have to be that way? So what if there are 10 dems and 22 GOP to choose from? Or whatever.

        Make them actually have to work for it and let the American people decide. Scrap the first past the post rule and ditch the electoral college. Give the people their voices back. The way it works right now does not work. It’s high time everyone just admits to it.

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        He is wildly unpopular. A majority of Americans thinks he is too old to be an effective president. This has nothing to do with his record, but with the simple biological fact that our minds decay as we reach our 80s.

        For that same reason Trump is a terrible candidate as well, and I actually am not worried that a younger candidate with some name recognition will be able to defeat him. I am much more worried about Biden.

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        Gather every D senator and congressman into a giant circle and toss a stone into the air. Whoever it hits is likely better.

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          Granted, the odds are in your favor, but there are definitely some much worse options in that crowd.

          Are any of them running? Actually, forget that. Anyone currently running is probably a moron.

          Do they have the name recognition and wide appeal? Can they raise the money and give a good speech? Can they argue with a madman and win? Are any of them leaders, and if so, where the fuck have they been?

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        A friend of mine suggested Michelle Obama and I was like… That could actually have been a realistic option 🤔

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          No it absolutely could not. She doesnt want it and this is a racist and misogynist country. The GOP literally believes she’s a trans dude and their media tells them that every day.

          Stop trying to make MO happen. It’s not gonna happen.

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            It’s not as if any Democrat candidate was going to be sold as being great to the Republicans by their media so I don’t know why you think that’s an argument…

            The US has already elected a black president twice so I guess the racists don’t win overall? She’s also seen in a much better light than Hillary Clinton, I do think a woman could have won 2016 if she had been not-Clinton.

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              Obama is a reaction to Bush and Iraq. Biden is a reaction to trump and fascism. Obama got shellaced in 2010. Democrats still do not control the Senate. Nothing has been the win you think it is.

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                2008, Obama’s popular vote? 52.9%

                2012? 51.1% (funny how he got elected twice with more than 50% of the vote in a country that’s so racist it wouldn’t elect a black person if it wasn’t for Bush? 🤔)

                2016 Clinton’s? 48.18% (46.09% for Trump)

                2020 with Harris as vice President? 51.31%

                Looks to me like it’s not that a woman or a black person can’t win on their own merits, it’s that the electoral system is fucked up in the USA.

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                  Looks like you made my point for me as none of those are strong showings and still desplay reactive voting over proactive voting.

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                    So Obama being elected a second time was a vote against Bush… That wasn’t a eligible candidate at that point because he already was elected twice…

                    Yeah so I’m just going to ignore you from this point on because clearly you must have something against women and POC and don’t want them in politics or something.

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          I would vote for him for anything, but he doesn’t want the job, and he isn’t running. Those are two important prerequisites to voting for the guy.

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      Our system rewards fund raisers. Why is it someone who able to raise money should run the country, I don’t know. Just how it is set up.