• GBU_28@lemm.ee
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    11 days ago

    Here’s the thing. You said “Android is Linux.” Is it in the same family? Yes. No one’s arguing that. As someone who is a tech expert who works with Linux, I am telling you, specifically, in tech, no one calls Android ‘Linux.’ If you want to be “specific” like you said, then you shouldn’t either. They’re not the same thing. If you’re saying “Linux family,” you’re referring to the group of Unix-like systems, which includes things from Ubuntu to Fedora to Debian. So your reasoning for calling Android ‘Linux’ is because random people “see Linux in the kernel?” Let’s get macOS and BSD in there, then, too. Also, calling something Unix-based or POSIX-compliant? It’s not one or the other, that’s not how OS families work. They’re both. Android is Android and part of the Linux kernel family. But that’s not what you said. You said Android is Linux, which is not true unless you’re okay with calling all Unix-like systems Linux, which means you’d call macOS, FreeBSD, and other OSes Linux, too. Which you said you don’t. It’s okay to just admit you’re wrong, you know?

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      11 days ago

      I’d even go so far to say Android is an API/shell on a Linux kernel.

      Just like Mac is it’s own API on a Linux kernel.

      There’s probably a better term for this today.

      Even Windows is an API on the Windows kernel. At one time there was a Posix API for Windows. Today there’s both an Android Subsystem for Windows, and a Linux Subsystem for Windows. Which are little more than APIs that run on the Windows kernel (though quite a hit more involved).

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            10 days ago

            I know you were making fun of me, but I appreciate the correction none the less.

            POSIX has a certification as well it seems, but nobody really seems to care about it?

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                10 days ago

                Honestly, I’ve got thick skin; I’m perfectly fine with it. I try to be as accurate with my knowledge as possible, and if you correct me – it causes me to look it up, correct my information, and do better next time. “Being mean” isn’t a reason to downvote someone, it’s just that online everyone’s typically so sensitive about shit :)

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          10 days ago

          Jackdaws aren’t crows

          Here’s the thing. You said a “jackdaw is a crow.”

          Is it in the same family? Yes. No one’s arguing that.

          As someone who is a scientist who studies crows, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls jackdaws crows. If you want to be “specific” like you said, then you shouldn’t either. They’re not the same thing.

          If you’re saying “crow family” you’re referring to the taxonomic grouping of Corvidae, which includes things from nutcrackers to blue jays to ravens.

          So your reasoning for calling a jackdaw a crow is because random people “call the black ones crows?” Let’s get grackles and blackbirds in there, then, too.

          Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It’s not one or the other, that’s not how taxonomy works. They’re both. A jackdaw is a jackdaw and a member of the crow family. But that’s not what you said. You said a jackdaw is a crow, which is not true unless you’re okay with calling all members of the crow family crows, which means you’d call blue jays, ravens, and other birds crows, too. Which you said you don’t.

          It’s okay to just admit you’re wrong, you know?