Senior Democrats in US cities are preparing to defend their communities in the event ofĀ Donald TrumpāsĀ return to the White House after the former president has repeated threats that he would use presidential powers to seize control of major urban centers.
Trump has proposed deploying the military inside major cities largely run byĀ DemocratsĀ to deal with protesters or to crush criminal gangs. He has threatened to dispatch large numbers of federal immigration agents to carry out mass deportations of undocumented people in so-called āsanctuaryā cities.
He also aims to obliterate the progressive criminal justice policies of left-leaning prosecutors.
āIn cities where there has been a complete breakdown of law and order ā¦ I will not hesitate to send in federal assets including the national guard until safety is restored,ā Trump says in the campaign platform for his bid to become the 47th US president,Ā Agenda47.
TrumpĀ provoked uproarĀ earlier this week when he called for US armed forces to be deployed against his political rivals ā āthe enemy withinā ā on election day next month. But his plans to use national guard troops and military personnel as a means to attack those he sees as his opponents go much wider than that, spanning entire cities with Democratic leadership.
No gun crime, that can be said quite easily. Or at least the numbers of shootings are small enough that they make international news when they happen.
And also, the cops in those countries tend not to shoot people or pets. Like ever. Cases where an officer is forced to discharge their weapon are also international news stories.
But here in the states, we wouldnāt know any of that, because here there are two or three mass shootings per day.
Just let that dichotomy sink in a bit.
These countries also have safety nets and generally give a shit about their citizens. The usa doesnāt have any of that.
We need to end qualified immunity here big time. Also something other countries(western) donāt have. 1 in 38ish deaths via firearms are from police. Thatās including suicides which account for 66% of all gun deaths in the usa.
No there is not. This is the issue with data from the anti2a crowd, itās like talking to the anti-abortion groupsā¦made up and fully exaggerated shit.
https://www.cnn.com/us/mass-shootings-fast-facts/index.html
It was one per day for a while there, but the numbers have been up the last few years.
So yes, two or three per day.
As a note, a mass shooting is defined as a shooting where 4 or more people are injured or killed, not including the gunman.
Donāt know how many times Iāve got to say this but the GVA is junk data.
Here is one from the 2024 listā¦it states 1 dead 9 injuredā¦but if you go to the article referenced you have to go to another to see thatā¦gang shooting surpriseā¦
https://www.wsmv.com/2024/10/14/police-say-five-people-involved-jefferson-street-mass-shooting-had-gang-affiliations/
Even better is the 9 people injured, were injured after the shooting, and not from the gun fire(usually crowds panic and people get hurt from running). So no not what should be considered a mass shooting but itās there because of some bullshit definition. The public hears mass shooting and thinks random person shot up a mallā¦not āgang members got into a fight and shot each otherā
Are you saying that a gang shooting isnāt a mass shooting? Why? Are they not people?
In countries with sensible gun laws, the gangs donāt have guns.
The gangs still exist, because weāre humans, but they donāt have easy guns and thus, there are no mass shootings,
No itās not what the public thinks of a mass shooting. You can stop pretending it is.
In countries with sensible gun laws ā¦they never had 400+ million firearms in civ hands to startā¦they also arenāt running a war on drugs that creates gangs like oursā¦we literally created the cartels from our war on drugs.
The gangs in other Western countries are like bikers gangs that go to ihop here in the statesā¦ theyāre a fuckin joke.
So you claim the public doesnāt count gang members as people. Or gang victims, because gang related shootings donāt always result in just gang members being injured, quite often innocent people are caught up in it.
But rather than being a racist jackass, letās just accept the given definition of a mass shooting, Four or more people injured, not counting the gunman.
See how simple that definition is? And no need to let racist bias pretend that some people arenāt people just because a gang member was somewhere near the shooting.
Four or more people injured or killed, not including the gunman. Thatās a mass shooting, and we had over 600 of them last year,
Then you pretend that some gangs are worse than others. No, theyāre just better armed.
And the old āwe have too many guns to implement gun controlā bullshit. The vast majority of mass shootings are done with new guns, so simply stop selling new guns (and throw the CEOs of the gun companies in jail, but thatās not for their reckless disregard for human life, all CEOs of major corporations should do a few years in jail)
Also, youāre ignoring things like Australia, where they had more guns than people, and after a mass shooting, they said fuck this, and did a huge gun buyback coupled with actual gun control. Now Australia doesnāt have mass shootings. Amazing how that works.
No the public assumes a mass shooting is a random act. Not a gang shooting.
The fuck? No where did I bring race into this discussion, you just didā¦sounds like youāre assuming only minorities make up gangsā¦
Or not, because there isnāt really one.
https://usafacts.org/articles/what-is-considered-a-mass-shooting/
Lol youāre grasping here buddy. The majority of our shootings are gang related, meaning it was gangs doing the shooting. Not near the shooting, but you keep up that racism stickā¦
Again, thatās what the GVA uses and itās how the numbers get pumped.
https://usafacts.org/articles/what-is-considered-a-mass-shooting/
Congress goes with 3 or more killed even, not just injured.
Lol not how that worksā¦you seem to think gangs are all the same, when theyāre not. Our gangs arenāt hanging people under bridges like in Mexico, but sure itās the arms they have.
The majority of them are had via straw purchases, which ā¦are illegal.
Australia never had more guns than people, they also had a 60% turn in rate. And now they have more guns than before the forced confiscation. Iāve talked about this plenty before. 60% still leaves over 100 million guns in civ hands. Of which the majority will be kept by criminals.
Injured is still shot, does it make it any less of a shooting if the person survived?
Are you seriously arguing that we donāt have a gun problem because people survive?
The rest of you nitpicks seem to be just random nonsense.
First it was that some shootings donāt count because a gang was involved. Are the victims any less shot due to a gang being involved?
Then you say, but thatās not the definition of a mass shooting, people have to die for it to count. But are the survivors any less shot?
Then you ignore the fact that Australia implemented Gun Control. Say it again here, Gun Control. And look, no new mass shootings, regardless of the definition.
Buybacks and seizures to reduce the number of guns, and then strict controls on new purchases. A blueprint for functional gun control.
Unless that somehow doesnāt count, like all the people who have been shot that you just donāt seem to care about.
Donāt know how many times Iāve got to say this but the GVA is junk data.
Here is one from the 2024 listā¦it states 1 dead 9 injuredā¦but if you go to the article referenced you have to go to another to see thatā¦gang shooting surpriseā¦
https://www.wsmv.com/2024/10/14/police-say-five-people-involved-jefferson-street-mass-shooting-had-gang-affiliations/
Even better is the 9 people injured, were injured after the shooting, and not from the gun fire(usually crowds panic and people get hurt from running). So no not what should be considered a mass shooting but itās there because of some bullshit definition. The public hears mass shooting and thinks random person shot up a mallā¦not āgang members got into a fight and shot each otherā