• TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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    This is her youtube channel. If you haven’t read the paper on this algorithm, I think you can get a good intuitive understanding by watching the two videos she has on there from (what looks like) her thesis, and I think it becomes clear why she was selected to lead this project.

    Specifically, these two videos:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfGvPinTJUs

    and

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NhQ7WkbHms

    So, consider that these two videos are basically the “one-dimensional” solution, or one pin-hole camera example. In the approach that her and her team to image the black hole, they used many, many radio antennas’, all acting in concert in a not-too different version of what she did her for the work on her YT channel.

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      too bad - that you leached on your senior collaborators who did ALL and every intellectual part of the project - all for your credit; you are what I call an instagram scientist - too bad for science that such people who do any third-rate cheating act for publicity - like Katie Bouman exists @JosephDT

      Seems like somebody is unhappy with her being chosen

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    16 hours ago

    She was on one of the teams that did if I remember correctly. I believe they split up into three teams and developed algorithms independently from one another. What surprised everyone was when they came back, all three teams had more or less the same image. It’s been a while so I may be wrong on some details. But it wasn’t just her is my point.

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      46 minutes ago

      It’s almost never just one person, science is teamwork, but that doesn’t mean she’s not an excellent scientist and project leader worthy of the buzz surrounding her research. Let’s let her have the spotlight she deserves.

    • 1984@lemmy.today
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      15 hours ago

      The media loves to make single people heroes because it’s easier to sell.

      I think in reality, nobody makes anything alone.

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        12 hours ago

        It’s the hero myth that came to life at the time of Beethoven, of a misunderstood genius. Yes that guy was pretty good at what he did, but it was simply that he got progressively deaf and couldn’t socialize with people anymore.

        From that to marvel movies stereotype of one man prodigy and media idolizing individuals with sob stories.

        Look at Nobel prizes in science, they’re often multiple names, and behind each names there’s countless decades of graduate students contributions and their teams.

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          It’s even older: The myth of individual excellence is at least as old as the phenomenon of a distinct class of a warrior aristocracy. All throughout history, you’ll see the elite (as most historians and poets were, because a peasant working for subsistence doesn’t have the time to write deep musings about that time he got conscripted for war and stood in a line with all the other common peasants) writing of this or that great general or warrior, despite most of just about everything being done by groups.

          You might know about the great heroes of the Iliad, excelling in battle by taking down a key figure of the opposing side, but most people probably don’t spend a lot of time thinking about the mass of “common” infantry on either side, let alone about the servants carrying the hoplites’ stuff.

          You might find a lot of medieval works focused on the glory and honor of a knight, but the (comparatively) poor spear-and-shield conscripts receive attention mostly in official documents detailing the way their army was to be raised (see the section “Ninth-Century Rohirrim” here).

          Even when thinking about heavy cavalry charges, for the longest time I never gave much thought to the value of coordinated cohesion between them. The knights’ charge is still a group effort, where an isolated warrior - great hero or not - would be doomed. And while we may be aware that knights had a squire, the rest of the retinue wouldn’t be clear to everyone:

          Clifford Rogers notes one (fictional and lavish, but not outrageous) war party “suitable for a baron or banneret” included a chaplain, three heralds, four trumpeters, two drummers, four pages, two varlets (that is, servants for the pages), two cooks, a forager, a farrier, an armorer, twelve more serving men (with horses, presumably both as combatants and as servants), and a majordomo to manage them all – in addition to the one lord, three knights and nine esquires (C. Rogers, Soldiers’ Lives through History: the Middle Ages (2007), 28-9).

          (Citation copied from this entry of the same blog as before)

          Ever since there has been an elite with the leisure to write and document, served by a lower class who didn’t, there has been a tendency to emphasise these elites’ individual value and omit the group effort of all the invisible people contributing to that value.

          I don’t know if that is the cultural inspiration for the modern trend of focusing on single individuals or simply a symptom of a similar cause, but there is a certain resemblance that I suspect isn’t pure coincidence.

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      For the number of times women were straight up erased from their scientific achievements I think we can keep choosing them to represent the team for a bit.

      • GottaKnowYourCHKN@lemmy.world
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        This. Men got so angry when this story dropped and took personal offense to the fact a woman did something important and valuable. The amount of times women have had their work stolen and taken credit for by some bro far outweighs the recognition.

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          Or maybe attribute everyone equally - regardless of gender / sex, since that doesn’t matter to what they do? You don’t fix injustice with more injustice by skipping the contributions of other teams and only singleing her out.

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            43 minutes ago

            Science is teamwork, but the contribution of different team members is usually not all the same. There’s no way for us to know who did most of the important work. We have to put trust in the team that they chose their representative fairly.

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        5 hours ago

        The vast majority of posts on this community are internet memes that don’t fit that definition.

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            When speaking of memes, most people think of internet memes. The likes of which this and every other meme community is full of. That’s not what Dawkins means by a meme. What he means by it is a cultural analog to genes. A trait that passes from person to person as an idea or behavior. Shaking hands would an example of such meme.

            Internet meme on the other hand generally comes in the form of a picture which is funny, ironic or relateable.

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    Dude in the back is looking at the result with the same intensity as a teenager seeing boobs for the first time.