Trump also complained about his 2019 impeachment, which stemmed from a July 2019 phone conversation with Zelenskyy about the Bidens.
  • TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org
    52·
    2 months ago

    This motherfucker is not currently an elected politician. Why the fuck is a civilian having meetings and making deals with foreign leaders? I was asking myself that when he met with Netanyahu.

    • Cethin@lemmy.zipEnglish
      5·
      2 months ago

      It isn’t uncommon for a presidential candidate to meet with foreign leaders to discuss what may happen after they’re elected. In the case of Ukraine, they need to know what to expect in the event Trump is elected. They’re fighting a war, and it’d be a really bad idea to continue in ignorance.

      He’s done plenty of bad and illegal things, but this is fairly normal.

  • Carmakazi@lemmy.world
    32·
    2 months ago

    I’m surprised Zelenskyy met with him at all. It’s hard for me to think of a reason why this wouldn’t be an aggravating waste of his time.

    • NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip
      29·
      2 months ago

      He has to.

      Obviously Zelenskyy wants Kamala to win. That is the only real hope Ukraine has short of a civil war in russia (that will have knock on effects. But the race is still infuriatingly close. And trump liking Zelenskyy might be the difference between widespread ethnic cleansings and… just half of Ukraine getting genocided.

      • Carmakazi@lemmy.world
        9·
        2 months ago

        I guess that’s the pageantry of politics, but in more pragmatic terms it’s pretty clear where Trump falls. Zelenskyy specifically is on Trump’s shitlist because he didn’t play ball with his “dirt on the Bidens” scheme. And Trump is transparently compromised by Putin in one way or another, and is going to rule warmly in favor of Ukraine’s abuser no matter what.

        Any other nuance or angle that could be worked is literally beyond Trump’s reasoning or memory. A waste of time.

        • NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip
          9·
          2 months ago

          Its not “politics”

          It is leadership. The people of Ukraine aren’t idiots. They understand that a LOT of their military and intelligence support has come from the US and that a US that is opposed to that means a severe lack of resources and pressure against the rest of NATO to do the same.

          Does anyone expect a “win” to come out of talks with trump? No. But it says a lot to have a leader who is willing to try to lessen the loss.

          The Internet has a tendency to like to discuss things in a clinical and idealistic sorkin-esqe manner. That isn’t how life works. Sometimes you can’t save everyone but you can at least try to save some people.

        • Nougat@fedia.io
          4·
          2 months ago

          Zelenskyy meeting with Trump is just Zelenskyy meeting with Putin with extra steps.

    • unmagical@lemmy.ml
      11·
      2 months ago

      It’s unclear who’ll win the next US election. Zelensky wants support from whomever wins. Zelensky therefore has met with all the candidates who have a chance to win to try and bolster the chances of continued support.

  • seaQueue@lemmy.world
    28·
    2 months ago

    Sure he will, right after infrastructure week, his health care plan and after he releases his tax returns

    • Vanon@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      2 months ago

      In this case, Pootytang has developed the plan, so it probably exists. It would probably work out as well as Donnie’s previous master negotiations with terrorists.

      It’s gonna feel great to vote and finally terminate his presidency, then watch the cult lose their minds, fracture and fade into oblivion (or prison).

  • InverseParallax@lemmy.worldEnglish
    7·
    2 months ago

    I’m sure he thinks he will, and he’s right in a way, once Ukraine is integrated into Russia then what’s good for Russia is good for Russia.

    And what’s good for Russia is another Holodomor.

  • zib@lemmy.worldEnglish
    71·
    2 months ago

    We’ll probably hear about this details of this deal around the same time he has that healthcare plan ready. Any day now, I’m sure of it.

  • cristo@lemmy.worldEsperanto
    1·
    2 months ago

    Trump made great strides with North Korea that ammounted to absolutely nothing, this would turn out exactly the same. A big ol nothingburger, or he could just make it worse by allowing Russia to annex large swaths of Ukraine that they already lost in the counteroffensive.