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    3 months ago

    You do that. And if/when Trump wins and gives Netanyahu the ok to turn Palestine into glass then turn it into luxury apartments for violent Americans, and he does, then those people’s blood will be on your hands. Remember that.

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      3 months ago

      It’ll be my fault… why?

      Will it be because I’m responsible for the choices my government makes? Wouldn’t the blood also be on the hands of the “progressive” voters? The Harris voters?

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        Because every vote counts, and there are only two possible outcomes.

        Buddy, you know why. You can pretend online that you don’t understand it, but I know you’re smart enough to get it, and deep down, you know that what I’m saying is true.

        Either you feel emboldened to say it because it looks like Kamala might win, so therefore you think you can just throw your vote away, or you know exactly what you’re doing.

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          I’m old enough to have been able to vote in the 2000 election. Is the blood from 600 thousand Iraqis on my hands too?

          If I were choosing the vote that makes me least responsible for the genocide in Gaza wouldn’t I choose a candidate who opposes it in both word and deed?

          If what you said were true and I really was responsible for the actions of my government through my vote, wouldn’t it make sense to focus on getting voting records from diebold or whatever so you could use that information to target your vitriol at the people most responsible for this nations cruel actions?

          I don’t think you’ve seriously thought what you’re saying through.

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              Gore would have won in Florida if there had been a full recount instead of a partial.

              If you really believe that people are responsible for the actions of their governments does that extend to the gore voters in Florida?

              If people are responsible for the actions of their governments then what justice should be enacted to right the wrongs they bear responsibility for?

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                I believe that the number of people who voted for Nader in FL was enough to have given Gore a significant enough lead that a recount would never have taken place. Been a few years since I’ve looked at the actual numbers though so maybe I’m thinking of another state.

                Not sure why we’re talking about the 2000 election but ok.

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                  we’re talking about 2000 because i asked about it to find out exactly how far back your belief that voters bear the responsibility for the us governments actions goes and to which particular voters it applies.

                  are the nader people more to blame for the recount not taking place than the many people and political actors calling for it to stop?

                  are the election workers responsible for the failed system they enabled through their work that literally put the wrong person in office?

                  i’m gonna sound like a broken record here, but:

                  If I were choosing the vote that makes me least responsible for the genocide in Gaza wouldn’t I choose a candidate who opposes it in both word and deed?

                  If what you said were true and I really was responsible for the actions of my government through my vote, wouldn’t it make sense to focus on getting voting records from diebold or whatever so you could use that information to target your vitriol at the people most responsible for this nations cruel actions?

                  If you really believe that people are responsible for the actions of their governments does that extend to the gore voters in Florida?

                  If people are responsible for the actions of their governments then what justice should be enacted to right the wrongs they bear responsibility for?