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Presidential hopefuls vying for a spot on Illinois’ March 19 primary ballot had to submit their nominating petitions to the State Board of Elections on Thursday or Friday. The loyalty pledge is not required but is a long-standing tradition that candidates undertake as part of that paperwork.
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perfect, so can this be pointed to as yet another tacit admission of being
a human piece of shitan insurrectionist?That will not really hurt him in any way.
His base is likely in favor of ending democracy to have a dictatorship of billionaires, but a chunk of people who haven’t been paying attention much may care
lol people who didn’t pay attention to the LITERAL FUCKING INSURRECTION might look at the fact he didn’t sign paperwork and turn on him?
A big chunk of the population doesn’t realize that Biden and Trump are shoo-ins for their parties nominations, and reminding those people that Trump has doubled down on ending democracy is important.
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Those people are beyond saving. But hopefully it will convince some of the “I don’t like Biden so I’m gonna protest vote for some joke candidate” crowd to actually take the election seriously.
I don’t see this being the ‘turning point’ for anyone if they haven’t already turned on trump. This is basically jaywalking by his standards.
Probably because he IS planning to (try and) overthrow the government again if he looses in November.
Or if he doesn’t.
Yeah his plan probably boils down to:
A) Lose and overthrow
Or
B) Win and destroy our democracy
Same outcome either way.
Wrong, if he loses then we have a better chance of stopping his attempts
It depends on if his plans go accordingly.
For context his afternoon plans were to NOT shit himself. You can have a guess how those plans turned out.
Yeah, I think he is being backed into a corner where he is all in on either “winning” the election or using his cult (this includes members of congress/military/etc.) to try and take the government so he doesn’t have to answer for his crimes. He basically has nothing left to lose, which is why it’s scary that states are putting him on the primary ballot to begin with. Letting him win the nomination and then should the Supreme Court decide that he (or any/every) president have absolute immunity to commit crimes and that the 14th amendment applies to him, things are going to get a lot more ugly. If he makes it all the way till November I think we are going to see violence from the right that makes Jan. 6 seem like a warm-up run.
Why not just lie about it like he does everything else? Take the oath. Who cares? Because this has become a selling point. Your crazy uncle and/or crazy parents want democracy to die and for this shit stained drug addled moron to become a dictator. It’s the ultimate variation of sticking it to the libs.
It’s also a signal to the “troops”.
He doesn’t need to lie. One of the only things he’s been right about is that he could shoot someone in the street and no one would do anything about it.
He’s never won the popular vote and he never will
Because he sucks Putin and shits himself
In this country you don’t need the popular vote, you just need land’s vote and electors on your side.
The problem with trump’s next attempt at an armed rebellion is that he left the J6 traitors rotting in jail even when he was still president. He could have pardoned them all, but didn’t.
Are people really going to risk death or years in the federal pen a second time?
He seems to keep on getting people to sacrifice themselves for him. It’s kind of a lifelong habit
He seems to keep on getting people to sacrifice themselves for him.
For nothing, too. It’s absolutely bizarre. He has an expansive history of just dumping people the moment they become less than useful, and people still go out of their way to lay under the next bus.
I think with all the chaos at the end of his term that he was talked out of pardoning them all (he wanted to originally). He has made it a promise to pardon most/all on day one when he is “being dictator for a day” as a campaign promise. And the fun of the cult is he 110% doesn’t have to follow through on any of what he says/promises because he despises his followers and they love him for it.
Probably yes. These people aren’t the cream of the crop.
Its like how you deal with killbots. You send wave after wave of troop at them until they hit the limit of their kill count and deactivate.
long standing tradition
We’ve been holding our government together with the duct tape of “tradition” for too goddamn long and now it’s starting to peel off.
I’d imagine hearing about this has made his traitorous loyalists are even more worshippy then they ever have been.
I have to say this pledge seems pretty stupid on the face of it. It’s origins come from a very anti democratic place and the logic of it makes no sense since if you were planning to forcibly overthrow the government through a secret plan that involved running in the primaries you’d hardly let the cat out of the bag by skipping it, you’d just make the pledge and then do it.
This guy skipping it is for sure an ominous sign but he already wanted everyone to know this and the ootional and pointless pledge is providing a convenient means for a political stunt which is ironic since a stupid political stunt is what it sounds like it always was to begin with when people were forced to start making it for similar theatre.
Not saying it’s not a concern though, it’s a worrying marker of the changes of the political landscape where deliberately signalling a desire for insurrection is a smart and shrewd political move that’s actually beneficial to a canditate when people point it out is a very dangerous place to be in.
There are so many Republicans that say they don’t trust the election anymore (thanks, Trump!). But how many are going to say they don’t trust the election if Trump wins? None. None of them are going to say it was rigged if he wins.
Did he do it last time or skip it? Not that it matters to his base either way.
Edit: he signed it in 2016
Also: “The oath remains enshrined in Illinois law but has been struck down as unconstitutional on free speech grounds in federal courts.”
