• EatATaco@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Can I ask how old you are? Because it was absolutely nothing like it is now in 2004. The vote or die thing wasn’t literal, it was just an attempt at a making voting cool to get young people out to vote.

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      I’m 34. There absolutely were people talking about a fascist bush/Cheney regime in 2004. Sure things are different now, but they’re still very much the same.

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        I’m 34. There absolutely were people talking about a fascist bush/Cheney regime in 2004. Sure things are different now, but they’re still very much the same.

        If you are 34: You were at most 10 years old when Bush won in Nov. 11, 1999, and at most 18 years old when he left office. You were a child. You didn’t vote. You really don’t know if things were “very much the same”.

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          “You could never understand historical events if you weren’t literally alive and a full grown voting adult to see them”

          What a fucking shit take. Have you never commented on a single thing you weren’t alive for? Stop being so reactionary, not every election is “the most important in our country’s history”. Again, gimme a break.

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            I would like to note that they only example you’ve provided to equate the two is that p-diddy used s common figurative saying in an attempt to make voting cool.

            One can certainly understand things, to an extent, that happened when they were young or before they were born. But if this is the meat of your argument, let alone appearing to be the entirety of it, this is not one of those times.

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              Lol no that’s just what you jabronis latched onto because it was the easiest part to dispute

              The messaging is the same. We’ve been saying every election is the most important election every 4 years going on decades now, in fact, here’s a slate article documenting the use of the phrase “most important election in our countries history” going back 200 years in print media.

              https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/11/most-important-election-of-our-lifetimes-history.html

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                Lol no that’s just what you jabronis latched onto because it was the easiest part to dispute

                I don’t see it. Please reiterate where you referenced some facts other than this.

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                  Oh you mean the article I just replied with that you completely ignored, just like my point about using similar messaging in every election. My main comment wasn’t even about vote or die, just used it as an example lol

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                    Oh you mean the article I just replied with that you completely ignored

                    You claimed you already had provided something and we all just latched onto one thing. your link was provided after the fact. This should be pretty obvious.