• Zippy@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    He hasn’t been convicted of sedation yet and the impeachments did not pass the Senate for removal. Basically that is like an acquittal.

    Agree what is wrong with the US but legally it is still up in the air.

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      1 year ago

      This take is wildly ahistorical. Confederates were barred from office without being impeached. Impeachment is not mentioned in the 14th amendment at all. In fact, it explicitly mentions a remedy for people who have committed insurrection: the Congress can vote by 2/3 majority to reinstate an insurrectionist’s right to hold public office.

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      But it shouldn’t still legally be in the air. He’s already been proven to be a traitor.

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        I agree with that. Shouldn’t still be legally up in the air. Proven in public opinion, sure. Legal proven no.

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      1 year ago

      Basically that is like an acquittal.

      Not really. He has still been impeached, it’s just his own party chose not to remove him from office over the impeachment.

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        Yes we knew that. The point is legally he has been acquitted. Fair or not he has not been officially convicted and thus this can not be used to eliminate him from running for office.

        I know people here don’t agree with it. I wish he was convicted myself. But it’s is not grey. It is ‘not really’. Your either convicted or acquitted and he was the latter because that is how the constitution works. Now use your vote should it come to that.

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          But it isn’t an acquittal, and he has officially been impeached.

          It’s more like he was found guilty but then given no punishment at sentencing.

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            That absolutely is not what impeachments is. Look it up. Impeachments is equivalent to charging someone only. It then basically comes to the house to investigate it and decide if he is guilty. Guilty meaning removed from office. I don’t understand why people do not know this.

            Ya I think he is slimy and likely should have been revoved from office. That that takes 2/3 of the Senate vote. But not getting 2/3 of the vote does not mean he is innocent.