He’d get my vote…

  • CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Ugh, I just got done listening to the portion in the audiobook for Maher’s book where he goes over how the #metoo thing was only really a weapon used against Democrats and talks about Franken.

    I’d love to see Franken run, but the depressing fact is that he was thrown under the bus for a ridiculous overreaction called the #metoo thing, and there will be many so-called feminists coming for him with guns blazing.

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      5 months ago

      #metoo was a needed movement, but in certain cases it definitely went too far. I think the “believe women” rhetoric makes sense in the contact of “sexual assault happens more than you think, we should stop completely ignoring or actively disbelieving women on impulse when they share their stories”. But some people just took it as “why would any woman ever lie about this, they must be telling the complete and full truth in all circumstances” which is unfortunately how the Al Franken allegations went.

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        Right, it’s not like no woman would ever lie about such things and it’s not like after 2017 women everywhere became somehow unable to lie about it. I think it’s fair to believe it happens more than some believed before, and such claims deserve careful consideration. Moral panic is never good, however. Historically it’s always led to bad outcomes and overreactions society as a whole tens to regret.

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      5 months ago

      Ah yes, the me too movement went too far. I mean it’s nice and all to bring attention to the fact that 1 in 3 women get SA’d, while only 3/100 perpetrators see prison. But tragically, in all the confusion, some millionaire celebrities faced consequences, perhaps even unfairly.

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        5 months ago

        Yes, I think sacrificing innocent people is not good if that was misdirected anger because a slimy sex offender like donnie slid into office. It’s not like something like #metoo cannot oversteer into a moral panic like so many other similar things have done. Do I think anyone deserves to be sexually assaulted (there are male victims as well) - of course not. And of course I think people that perpetuate such assaults need to be appropriately punished.

        We should also recognize that women are capable of lying about such things, and these kind of things are obviously weaponized only against Democratic politicians for the most part. If a Republican gets all gropey and creepy, nothing seems to be done about it (at least in some very notable cases), even if verified in a court of law.