• Eldritch@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Can you be any more disingenuous? Hamas does not represent all of Palestinians. Israel does not represent all Jews. And yes October 7th was not good. But it’s awful telling that your timeline of atrocity starts there. And not the thousands upon thousands that were murdered by IDF and Israeli forces before that.

    Neither group is good. Neither group is innocent. But Israel really needs to stop acting like a victim. It’s not believable.

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      10 months ago

      Hamas does not represent all of Palestinians.

      No, not all, just almost all. 72% endorse the October 7th Holocaust. Support in the West Bank for Hamas has tripled since that date – 52% of Gazans and 85% of West Bank residents support Hamas’ actions in the war. Reuters.

      That’s why a Denazification process of Palestinian territories is necessary. Antisemitism is almost hardwired into them, from school textbooks to television, and it needs to be deprogrammed.

      And yes October 7th was not good.

      Jaw-dropping understatement. Have you seen what they did? It wasn’t just “not good”, it’s one of the most profoundly evil, cruel and barbaric atrocities of the modern era which.

      But it’s awful telling that your timeline of atrocity starts there. And not the thousands upon thousands that were murdered by IDF and Israeli forces before that.

      I’m very familiar with the history of Israel and Palestine. This war was spurred by October 7th. How many of those thousands were terrorists? Not all, of course, but Israel doesn’t just get off on killing innocent people. Hamas have had total control since Israel left Gaza in 2005, removed all their settlements, and gave them elections. What happened? They voted for Hamas, trashed the place, and spent all of the international aid money on weapons to kill Jews with not a single bomb shelter for their own citizens.

      Neither group is good. Neither group is innocent. But Israel really needs to stop acting like a victim. It’s not believable.

      The idea that Hamas and Israel are remotely comparable is contemptuous.

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        10 months ago

        You think that might be because of the genocide Israel is perpetrating? I know you’d never admit that. But that’s the reason. And I don’t necessarily blame them. When you have two monsters. You tend to side with the lesser of the two. Really ironic calling Hamas the lesser of two monsters. But it’s true. Despite all the people they killed on October 7th, the number of people the IDF and Israel has killed before and since absolutely dwarf it. It’s exponentially more. Neither one is good. Israel is worse.

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          10 months ago

          You think that might be because of the genocide Israel is perpetrating?

          No

          I know you’d never admit that. But that’s the reason.

          It’s not the reason. The reason is because Hamas were very successful at raping, slaughtering, and burning every Jew they could get their hands on on October 7th.

          And I don’t necessarily blame them.

          Vague words to evade stating clearly your belief that October 7th was justified.

          Neither one is good. Israel is worse.

          Speechless.

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            10 months ago

            Look when I asked if you could be any more disingenuous that was a rhetorical question, not a request.