Your comment made me realize how we take for granted that everyone at least measures time the same way. Imagine the clusterfuck if there was metric time & imperial time.
Imagine we determined seasons based on the birds flying into a meadow in Japan
Or we measured days in quarters like Thailand (France forced their neighbours to use 24h time but since Thailand…then Ayutthaya and later Siam were never colonized they kept their weird clocks)
Russia never adopted leap years so that’s why Russian New Year is at a different time than the rest of us
Well, at least there are global events that correlate to the true seasons - equinoxes and solstices - that can be observed and measured anywhere in the world (except maybe at the geographic north and south poles? Not sure).
This is the sole reason why decimal time, which was also part of the metric system when it was first used, never caught on. The benefits of metric are that it’s unambiguous and standard, but that was already the case for time so there wasn’t any reason for it to change.
Worth noting though, parts of the world use a different calendar system, but AFAIK the Gregorian calendar is unambiguously the one used when communicating internationally. Good thing other calendars don’t share month names with it (I think?) and that no one uses the Julian calendar anymore.
Oh, the French did try to “metric” time for awhile when the metric system was just being developed and introduced. And even they decided that was a very bad idea. Turns out Mother Nature does not care about base10 all that much when it suits her.
On the other hand, it did lead to the saying that “The French follow no one and no one follows the French”
Haha I work with people in the Midwest and west coast and do this too. But I still have to whip out the UTC time converter, so it’s 90% of the work just to be a bit of a pest.
In windows 11 (and possibly windows 10) you can add additional timezones to your clock. Your primary time shows at all times, and the other time zones show when you hover over it.
If you really want to be a dick, get in the habit of sending out everything in UTC (make sure you are labeling as UTC to avoid confusion), and then when you work exclusively with people in your own timezone (let’s say EDT), you say something like “let’s sync up at 15:30UTC-4.”
idk if all my calendars around me have been implementing it wrong, but if not, UTC is also affected by daylight savings, making it the same time zone as GMT
UTC isn’t supposed to be affected by daylight savings, neither is GMT which should be UTC+0. During daylight savings the UK changes to BST, which is GMT+1
I’ve gotten so sick of working with people in multiple timezones that I’ve just started using UTC for everything.
Fuck you for living in a different sliver of the planet. You aren’t gonna make me do all the math. I’m bringing you down with me.
Let’s see them tremble when daylight savings time ends.
Your comment made me realize how we take for granted that everyone at least measures time the same way. Imagine the clusterfuck if there was metric time & imperial time.
Thank colonialism
Imagine we determined seasons based on the birds flying into a meadow in Japan
Or we measured days in quarters like Thailand (France forced their neighbours to use 24h time but since Thailand…then Ayutthaya and later Siam were never colonized they kept their weird clocks)
Russia never adopted leap years so that’s why Russian New Year is at a different time than the rest of us
Well, at least there are global events that correlate to the true seasons - equinoxes and solstices - that can be observed and measured anywhere in the world (except maybe at the geographic north and south poles? Not sure).
Just because it’s interesting, you can scroll through their seasons
https://www.nippon.com/en/features/h00124/
Where did you get that about Russia? It’s incorrect
I should have been clear about it being adoption dates
This is the sole reason why decimal time, which was also part of the metric system when it was first used, never caught on. The benefits of metric are that it’s unambiguous and standard, but that was already the case for time so there wasn’t any reason for it to change.
Worth noting though, parts of the world use a different calendar system, but AFAIK the Gregorian calendar is unambiguously the one used when communicating internationally. Good thing other calendars don’t share month names with it (I think?) and that no one uses the Julian calendar anymore.
There is metric day and UTC day.
Oh, the French did try to “metric” time for awhile when the metric system was just being developed and introduced. And even they decided that was a very bad idea. Turns out Mother Nature does not care about base10 all that much when it suits her.
On the other hand, it did lead to the saying that “The French follow no one and no one follows the French”
Haha I work with people in the Midwest and west coast and do this too. But I still have to whip out the UTC time converter, so it’s 90% of the work just to be a bit of a pest.
In windows 11 (and possibly windows 10) you can add additional timezones to your clock. Your primary time shows at all times, and the other time zones show when you hover over it.
I had no idea! Thanks! Now I can be a pest with no extra effort
No worries!
If you really want to be a dick, get in the habit of sending out everything in UTC (make sure you are labeling as UTC to avoid confusion), and then when you work exclusively with people in your own timezone (let’s say EDT), you say something like “let’s sync up at 15:30UTC-4.”
I want to use TAI time zone. It’s 37 seconds ahead of UTC and doesn’t have leap seconds.
idk if all my calendars around me have been implementing it wrong, but if not, UTC is also affected by daylight savings, making it the same time zone as GMT
UTC isn’t supposed to be affected by daylight savings, neither is GMT which should be UTC+0. During daylight savings the UK changes to BST, which is GMT+1