How quickly Lemmy turns on the EU when they do something you don’t like.
It’s almost like a thing can be praised for its positive aspects and at the same time criticised for its negative aspects.
“Vegan burger” doesn’t tell me what’s in it. Could be fucking sawdust.
“Sausage” doesn’t tell you what’s in it either. Probably pork, but could be beef. Probably some amount of rusk, also. It’s almost like you have to check the packaging for other words.
Could be fucking marbles. Could be fucking Legos. Could be fucking quick set drywall compound. Could be fucking grass clippings. Could be fucking old math textbooks. Could be the fucking Queen’s used linens.
Except none of those make any fucking sense. You know what does make sense? Fucking vegan burger.
Something you have to realize is that the meat lobby has been heavily lobbying for this for years. This has nothing to do with consumers. Just like with vegan cheese, this will only make the product names more confusing. There used to be products called ‘vegan cheese’. Perfectly clear what it is - just plant-based cheese alternative. Now you can’t legally name a product ‘vegan cheese’, so instead they’re called ‘vegan slices’ (if they come in slices) or other nonsense like ‘plant-based product’, which tells you absolutely nothing until you read the description.
I live on Brussels. I know eurocrats. Corruption is rife, industry lobbyists are honoured guest, champagne is cheap at the mickey bar (named after the funny chairs) in the European Parliament. The head of the EU expressly required an apartment inside the commission where she enjoy extraterritoriality. The police cannot search there for her multiple corruption affairs.
Meanwhile our hospitals are shit, they just spent billions in F-35. They scraped the money for homeless people to be sheltered during freezing winter.
If you thought Brussels was less corrupted than London Washington or moskow I have bad news for you
It’s an outrage that they even spent a second on such bullcrap. Sawdust isn’t legally food and nothings stops you for reading the ingredient list.
the part that most vegans forget is meat alternatives are highly/ultra processed foods. And they really aren’t ‘healthier’ most of the time.
It’s all marketing. Vegans I have known are some of the most unhealthy people I have met… but they insist it’s meat that is awful. No, it’s their poor nutritional habits born out of their false beliefs that veganism is superior to non veganism, inherently. It isn’t.
Everything these days is all about the ideological agenda uber alles. Most lemmy users I’ve seen are highly ideological and have very little interest in facts or truth or nuance/complexity. Everything is a catch phrase w/them, just like the MAGA types they pretend they are better than.
This is all demonstrably false and goes against the available evidence.
Here’s a good Lancet study that investigates ultra processed foods by sub-type and looks at the health impact. Those who are meat and sugary drinks with artificial sweeteners had the highest incidences of cancer. Those who ate high amounts of ultra process plant based alternatives had a lower cancer rate than the base population. Believe what you want, but when it comes to cancer, eating ultra processed plant based products is better than meat.
How quickly Lemmy turns on the EU when they do something you don’t like. “Vegan burger” doesn’t tell me what’s in it. Could be fucking sawdust.
It’s almost like a thing can be praised for its positive aspects and at the same time criticised for its negative aspects.
“Sausage” doesn’t tell you what’s in it either. Probably pork, but could be beef. Probably some amount of rusk, also. It’s almost like you have to check the packaging for other words.
Could be fucking marbles. Could be fucking Legos. Could be fucking quick set drywall compound. Could be fucking grass clippings. Could be fucking old math textbooks. Could be the fucking Queen’s used linens.
Except none of those make any fucking sense. You know what does make sense? Fucking vegan burger.
That’s how democracy works. Just because something does something good doesn’t mean you have to ignore and accept the bad.
Something you have to realize is that the meat lobby has been heavily lobbying for this for years. This has nothing to do with consumers. Just like with vegan cheese, this will only make the product names more confusing. There used to be products called ‘vegan cheese’. Perfectly clear what it is - just plant-based cheese alternative. Now you can’t legally name a product ‘vegan cheese’, so instead they’re called ‘vegan slices’ (if they come in slices) or other nonsense like ‘plant-based product’, which tells you absolutely nothing until you read the description.
Couldn’t they call it “plant based cheese alternative” instead?
I live on Brussels. I know eurocrats. Corruption is rife, industry lobbyists are honoured guest, champagne is cheap at the mickey bar (named after the funny chairs) in the European Parliament. The head of the EU expressly required an apartment inside the commission where she enjoy extraterritoriality. The police cannot search there for her multiple corruption affairs.
Meanwhile our hospitals are shit, they just spent billions in F-35. They scraped the money for homeless people to be sheltered during freezing winter.
If you thought Brussels was less corrupted than London Washington or moskow I have bad news for you
It’s an outrage that they even spent a second on such bullcrap. Sawdust isn’t legally food and nothings stops you for reading the ingredient list.
Also don’t hesitate to come see for yourself sometime. We have great waffles :)
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the part that most vegans forget is meat alternatives are highly/ultra processed foods. And they really aren’t ‘healthier’ most of the time.
It’s all marketing. Vegans I have known are some of the most unhealthy people I have met… but they insist it’s meat that is awful. No, it’s their poor nutritional habits born out of their false beliefs that veganism is superior to non veganism, inherently. It isn’t.
Everything these days is all about the ideological agenda uber alles. Most lemmy users I’ve seen are highly ideological and have very little interest in facts or truth or nuance/complexity. Everything is a catch phrase w/them, just like the MAGA types they pretend they are better than.
some people just don’t want to eat animals you know?
This is all demonstrably false and goes against the available evidence.
Here’s a good Lancet study that investigates ultra processed foods by sub-type and looks at the health impact. Those who are meat and sugary drinks with artificial sweeteners had the highest incidences of cancer. Those who ate high amounts of ultra process plant based alternatives had a lower cancer rate than the base population. Believe what you want, but when it comes to cancer, eating ultra processed plant based products is better than meat.