• PhilipTheBucket@piefed.socialEnglish
    13·
    13 days ago

    Spot check

    • “defending neo-Nazis” -> link -> okay goat was just saying exploding-heads.com were not themselves neo Nazis which as far as I was ever aware they were not
    • “misgendering” -> well this one is gonna be hard to find, let’s look in the old modlog

    Really now? Your response is to turn the other cheek to civilians being gunned down on mass throughout your country? Oh, silly harmless Hamas raping women to death, stealing international civilians and slaughtering them inside of their own homes–we won’t do anything in response but give you a stern talking to

    • by goat

    Oh

    Oh no

    Well

    what would they be able to do? i’m the idf. i can bomb hospitals. i have fucking nukes. let the world tweet away

    • by goat

    https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/fighting-rages-israel-says-ready-evacuate-babies-gazas-main-hospital-2023-11-11/

    if i was the IDF and I wanted to kill civilians without any witnesses, I’d use my largest and most destructive bomb to really make sure no one captures it on film.

    but that’s if I was evil.

    Well this has taken a little bit of a turn

    Okay so yeah goat’s a tool to put it a little bit fucking mildly

      • cm0002@piefed.worldEnglish
        31·
        12 days ago

        I checked what @PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social found, I don’t think it’s as bad as it first appears.

        All of the references are from 2 years ago and a lot of information has come out since then about Israel, their propaganda, what Hamas really did and what they didn’t do or what was overblown, Gaza and the Israeli genocide as a whole.

        I will say, I have seen Goat condemn Israel and call their actions Genocide recently here https://sh.itjust.works/comment/20786914

        Furthermore, I also agree with you @PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social about someone or a group manipulating to stir the pot. It’s something the Tankie Triad has been known to do in the past and there’s no reason to believe they aren’t doing it now.

        • PhilipTheBucket@piefed.socialEnglish
          6·
          12 days ago

          Yeah, maybe that’s fair. On the other hand it was pretty clear two years ago that Israel was a genocidal monster, it just has become a lot more unanimous and urgent viewpoint since they started a new phase of the active genocide. But yeah, posting the thing about evacuating babies from Gaza isn’t nearly as suspect two years ago as it would be now.

          To me, the thing with PugJesus seems a lot more suspicious. That raised a ton of red flags for me, I don’t really see any reason you would do that whole sequence of actions if there wasn’t some kind of plot behind it. And then, looked at it that light, it starts to become a lot more weird for them to start this super public beef with dbzer0.

          • cm0002@piefed.worldEnglish
            42·
            12 days ago

            I won’t get into the bans here since that’s being worked out in private right now.

            However, I will say that this part

            Tankies never venture into this community, despite this being a place where they can freely discuss their viewpoints.

            Is indeed true, I have personally seen Goat allow (and even participate in) well known tankies to speak in threads without bans or comment removal even when they are downvoted to oblivion. Provided they aren’t just trolling, which is quite common as you might imagine.