This mod stated that they were the one behind the bans (https://feddit.org/comment/8930413)

So, a mod banning downvotes while using several sockpuppet accounts to vote multiple times.

  • Blaze@lazysoci.al
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    4 hours ago

    Having 30% of the votes come in from a single instance when the post was posted to a busy lemmy.world community is hugely sus, since the percent of Lemmy users who are even on dbzer0.com is so small compared with other instances. And then, that pattern of a huge influx of votes in one direction right after the thing is posted, with a ratio of up to downvotes (and a much higher volume in one direction only) that doesn’t match the ratio you see for most of the lifetime, is often an indication of voter fraud or coordinated voting.

    IIRC, at the time you were on a full “dbzer0 has turned power tripping” campaign

    7 downvotes, from actual different users from what I can see on the lemvotes page, isn’t voter fraud, it’s just people probably sharing that post in a group chat, and downvoting it, especially as the post itself is trying to spin some drama against them (it’s not clearly stated, but anyone aware of what was happening at the time would have known).

    I could create the same kind of posts about any instance in the same circumstances, be it SJW, LW, Blahaj, slrpnk, and get a similar result.

    I don’t have time now to dig into it right now, but from what I remember you were dead set against dbzer0 at the time. I guess that has changed since the post today about goat and !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works just banning everyone from dbzer0

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      3 hours ago

      it’s just people probably sharing that post in a group chat, and downvoting it

      Yeah, probably. I didn’t look too closely but they did look like real accounts from what I saw, and the timing to me seemed absolutely impossible to have happened that way without some kind of coordination. Isn’t that the exact type of thing that they described as “abusive” and deserving of a ban when it happened to them, though? That’s why I thought it was ironic and hilarious, and why I brought it up when someone else mentioned the exact same behavior from someone else who was banning for downvotes. I do think it’s sort of a notable (and obvious in retrospect) confluence of behaviors, for the reasons I explained.

      IIRC, at the time you were on a full “dbzer0 has turned power tripping” campaign

      I guess that has changed since the post today about goat and !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works just banning everyone from dbzer0

      Not really. I don’t operate along the lines of “everything my friends do is always fine, everything my enemies do is always bad.” I do understand that a lot of people on Lemmy do seem to operate that way, but I just kind of call balls and strikes as I see them.

      I’m pretty sure I actually prefaced that whole initial dbzer0 drama by saying that generally I had liked the dbzer0 team in the past, and I spent quite a long time going back and forth with db0 specifically, because if someone I usually think is a decent sort is doing something weird, I feel like they deserve hearing it directly to their face.

      Overall, I walked away from that interaction thinking that the dbzer0 authority team is kind of children. I still think that, I think I was giving them minor grief more recently about doing something else that I think was dumb. But it doesn’t mean that all of a sudden if goat bans anyone from dbzer0 I’m going to start to go “YEAH THEY’RE THE ENEMY GET EM GET EM.” Like I say, I know a lot of people on Lemmy seem to operate that way. I do not. I think goat has been weird about a bunch of stuff (and seems actually malicious, as opposed to the /0 team which seems more just kind of childish but nothing really ill intentioned.)

      Hopefully that is allowed. I feel like there’s somewhat of a possibility that needling the dbzer0 admins and being publicly critical of them is going to result in them turning into Brendan Carr to my Kimmel and deciding that they’re allowed to silence or punish or fight me because of that criticism… meaning interpreting that in the mold of “dead set against dbzer0” -> “enemy” and reacting accordingly, mirror imaged to the way they react to “positive about dbzer0” -> “friend.” Maybe not, the admins themselves haven’t really done anything like that so far, but others like the slrpnk admins definitely have. Let’s see. My general attitude to speaking my mind is more along the lines of “I can say what I want to say, even if it involves some kind of criticism of somebody, and in particular if I think you’re being a blockhead I’m going to tell you about it.” IDK what most of Lemmy is doing with their tribalistic alternative to that, but that’s how I do it.

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        3 hours ago

        I don’t have time right now, but as a rule of thumb, calling other people children just because they collectively disagree with you doesn’t seem like the best way to operate either.

        There can be antagonism between instances, that’s inherent to the nature of the platform, pretending it’s not the case is probably missing an important part of that platform.

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          2 hours ago

          I didn’t call them children because they disagreed with me. Plenty of people disagree with me, it comes with the territory of me being an opinionated loudmouth, and honestly it rarely bothers me.

          I called them children because they were bullying and banning a trans person when she tried to disagree with their handling of trans issues, while crying about “abuse” if people dared to give their friends downvotes, among other similar behavior.

          Citation to remind about specifics if you want it