• outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Can’t watch youtube from here. Security settings are a pain to change, and this doesn’t merit.

    appeal to authority

    Well if you could explain why that’s not a nonsense bullshit position, sure. But you haven’t shown any interest in doing that. It shouldn’t be hard. Please, make literally any attempt. I’ll try my best to understand.

    other articles have information about the dispute of

    Not “this is a confirmed unreliable source”. So it’s still the headline any zio can use, but totally honest to an audience who consumes media in a way nobody consumes media these days. This is called honest reporting.

    grotesque

    Youre talking about the murder of journalists trying to catch genocidal war criminals being excused and normalized by the outlets that hired them. I sought only to match that level of fucked, and i genuinely don’t think i was successful. If you think i was escalating, maybe that’s an issue with you.

    your interpretation

    The writer is interpreting even on what they consider “neutral”. How can you, in the year twenty rwenty five, nit understand this? Genuinely how?

    both sides

    Okay so you’re lying. Like, there’s cases where both sides, nut this really isn’t one

    the only insight is uncritical parroting of what we’re told

    Also a god damn century of precedent, the last hundred times this happened, explicit doctrine, how this story turbed out the last five hundred times we read it this year, the social media of the fucker who pulled the trigger (even odds they were also live streaming it over a truly horrible abuse of the rap genre) and report-backs from anyone with a strong enough stomach to press “hebrew to english” on their translation tool of choice. Yes. Other than those things all we have is their word against the word of the usual smouldering corpses.

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      Yeah, acting like you’re quoting but instead changing the words to what you want them to be makes it really hard to figure out what the fuck you’re saying.

      Summary of the video: a cellphone video of the second strike. The Livestream feed showing smoke in the distance and then cutting off. A video from a camera person approaching the bombsite before getting hit in the second strike. A voice over detailing what happened, Israels statement, the Palestinian press association calling it an unacceptable act of terrorizing journalists attempting to report the truth, and the response from other relevant parties, like Reuters.

      Well if you could explain why that’s not a nonsense bullshit position, sure. But you haven’t shown any interest in doing that. It shouldn’t be hard. Please, make literally any attempt. I’ll try my best to understand.

      Do you mean trusting Reuters more than you? It has something to do with you overtly stating that you don’t know what you’re talking about and being opposed to factual reporting while Reuters has a reputation as a reliable news source. And I see that you went back and edited your comment to include you being uneducated and deleriously inebriated.

      I’m not sure what other position you could be referring to, since I’ve explained things pretty clearly and repeatedly.

      audience who consumes media in a way nobody consumes media these days

      … Reading the article? Not getting their news from a screenshot of a tweet? If you need media outlets to not even reference in a headline someone you disagree with saying the murder was unintentional, you’re looking for propaganda.

      I sought only to match that level of fucked

      You thought to yourself “genocide and killing journalists is horrific, I better talk about raping kittens”? That’s even more bizarre than you being a child who thought it added dramatic flair.

      Okay so you’re lying. Like, there’s cases where both sides, nut this really isn’t one

      I’m actively at a loss for what you’re talking about here. I went back and I never talked about sides. The closest I came was trying to empathize with your viewpoint?

      You list a pile of things that would be evidence for their motivation that weren’t reported on. Do you actually have any of those things? A recording of the pilot saying they were gonna go bomb some journalists would actually be evidence.

      No one is taking their word for anything. Do you understand the difference between repeating what someone says and saying that they said it?

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        quoting

        No. Thats “quoting”. I’m indicating qhqt im responding to, ideas, not full text, and on the assumption that anyone reading what i said has at least least skimmed upthread of here. Bad assumption, i guess

        i fucked your mom

        Oof, but no accounting for taste. Get checked, k?

        edited

        Before you saw, so not ‘going back’. I assume the down vote was you.

        trusting reuters

        You still can’t actually address my criticism and tell me why i should. Like, youve said literally nothing to actually engage with it. You’re just appealing to authority and reminding me how (i told you!) i suck as if i wasn’t aware. As if that produces some inherent trudtworthiness either generally elsewhere or specifically reuters. Which is just convincing me that im right and you have a boot in your mouth.

        do you understand

        Discourse and how human brains and perception and communication actually work literally at all? It doesn’t seem so.

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          What criticism? You’ve said that you don’t trust them because they don’t tell you how to feel. I’ve engaged with that notion the entire time. Maybe go back and read through things again. Oh, wait. I forgot you said that actually reading was not how people engage with media anymore.

          Err…

          reminding me how (i told you!) i suck as if i wasn’t aware

          Hey, you asked. You saying you know nothing about the topic is a big motivation to not give you a lot of credence.

          Before you saw, so not ‘going back’.

          Confused about why you seem to be taking offense at that. I reread your comment while replying because it was jumbled (still not sure what you meant by “both sides”), and saw the "Edited:” bit and then the part about you being high. I assumed you didn’t just write ‘Edited:’ in the middle of the comment, which would mean you … Went back and edited it.

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            telling you how to feel

            For someone being teeious about wuotes you’re aefully fast and loose with them. You’re not self aware enough to explain yourself. I don’t believe you’re entirely a person, and I’d like to disengage from this and you.

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                At this point i see you as some combination of bad faith and not-being-a-conavious-actor enougg that i see no reward in exchange. I would like to disengage.

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                  You think I’m bad faith, as the person who has continuously dragged things off topic and ignored what’s been written? Rich. If you want to disengage, it’s called “stop engaging”. I find it entertaining enough to start engaging in this conversation on the level you started at.