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    6 months ago

    Great video but I really can’t agree with this protest pushing abstinence from voting on the upcoming election. I get that the current administration is enabling this, but the vote for the American president encompasses so much more than international strife. I wish we could separate that notion because it feels like a it’s been driven by foreign influence to sway the election. We cannot allow another Trump term. Cannot. If you think a protest for Palestine today is going to impact the presidential election as a “lesson” to your fellow Americans then the next protest against the policies of Project 2025 and Trump, will end up overshadowing all that you’re protesting now and the genocide will continue. Project 2025 will destroy America and anything left of Palestine. Yes war needs to stop, but voting for the lesser of two evils is all we get now. There will be not reckoning event for Democrats, they just need to claw back enough power to hold the legislative and keep it from the GOP while also making considerable changes to their own power structures within their party.

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      Yeah, he’s basically calling for people to support Trump by not voting. It’ll accomplish the exact opposite of what he’s advocating.

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      I didn’t see any lyrics in the song that prompted not voting. He says in the song that he’s not voting for Biden. That’s not the same thing as not voting.

      Everyone should vote for who they want to lead/represent them.

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              Probably the incumbent Democrat. Losing the popular vote doesn’t really disqualify thou gettin winning the office

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                Biden winning the electoral college and losing the popular vote is honestly not outside the cards in 2024.

                Very good chance the Dems in the big red states get even more disenfranchised than normal and turnout plummets in places like Florida and Texas. Then progressives in big blue states stay home in protest, because who cares if Biden wins California or New York by 5% or 50%? Meanwhile, Biden’s running neck-and-neck across the Midwest.

                He could pull a Reverse Hillary and lose a bunch of deep red states by enormous margins, underwhelm in blue strongholds, bait Trump into saying some bullshit about trade deals to hedge the Midwest, then squeak passed on electoral math.

                Would be funny as hell to watch the SCOTUS revisit Bush v Gore after that.

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              Since you seem to lack the intelligence needed, I’ll enlighten you! It’s Trump! He will win because Democrats would rather lose than run a viable centrist candidate.

              But that’s weird, I could have sworn all you blue MAGAts promised the exact same thing in 2019. Our democracy is at stake, we must vote Blue no matter who to stop fascism.

              That’s weird, I could have sworn the same thing happened in 2008 and 2012 as well. I had so much {{{hope}}} but all that happened was a retail debt fueled spending spree and no healthcare. Oh right, the banking industry must have been punished for that, surely? They didn’t just shift the bubble to permanent debt like student loan backed securities and securities fraud?

              Damn they said that in 1992 and we got Glass-Steagall repealed. But look we ran a federal surplus, hooray all is well!

              It’s so strange, I keep holding my nose and voting blue no matter who but the US keeps getting more right wing and capitalists keep consolidating power.

              Can you explain why this time will be totally different? After all, according to your logic, if a vote for not-Biden is a vote for Trump just like you say, then a vote for Biden must be a vote for Trump as well?

              I mean, we voted blue so there should be plenty of examples of Democrats taking material action to reject fascism and the wholesale plunder of the working class by capitalists, right?

              The blues will fight back this time, right? They’ll reverse the line, right?

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                All i have to say is ‘project 2025’ is why it will be different. That should be pretty simple.

                But continue if you must.

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                  All i have to say is ‘project 2025’ is why it will be different.

                  PNAC

                  The K-Street Project

                  The Republican Revolution

                  Whatever swill Phyllis Schafly was pushing 40 years ago.

                  There’s always an ingenious conservative think tank plan to forge an impenetrable bubble around Washington DC for the next 60 years. It rarely survives contact with the first Congressional cycle unless its another big tax cut.

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                  If it’s so much more dangerous this time around why wouldn’t they offer up multiple qualified candidates instead of putting all their eggs in one basket? It seems like either you’re wrong or they are.

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                    When a fascist says who they are, you should believe them.

                    But go ahead and keep your head in the ground.

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                It’s Trump! He will win because Democrats would rather lose than run a viable centrist candidate.

                They hated him, because he spoke the truth.

                Dems are going to brick wall by running the most insufferable assholes the party has seen since Nixon flipped the deep south. Republicans are going to win entirely due to depressed turnout. And we’ll get an earful about how Bernie Sanders screwed us all again, right into the 2026 election cycle.

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                We got the most left wing president since 1968 and you are over here saying “they just keep getting worse!”

                It’s a war not a battle. Biden has moved left because he saw the protests in 2020 and how much support Bernie got. He got called out on student debt forgiveness and low and behold he got billions of dollars forgiven even after the supreme Court ruled to block him.

                The man listens to the people.

                But please, bring the criminal back into office so he can pardon himself and all his fellow criminals. So he can write netanyahu a blank check. Hang Ukraine out to dry! They don’t matter! The Palestinians are being killed!, and honestly what’s the worst that could happen? Jan 6 will never come back for round 2!

                That’s what you sound like.

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                Do you think the protesters/gaza will have a better or worse time underneath that candidate should biden not win?

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                  Neither candidate seems likely to do anything but perpetuate the genocide, that does appear to be the case.

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                  That’s impossible to answer, I can’t tell the future to know who will win if Biden loses.

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                    Whelp, thanks for letting us know youre either too stupid to extrapolate on basic data or youre arguing in bad faith.

                    Usually accounts like this dont just outright say it like you did.

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                    Let me help you out. If Biden doesn’t win, Trump wins. Trump will be infinitely worse for Gaza than Biden.