My position is if you are aware of the situation you are already a part of the system. Whether you choose to pull the lever or not is still a choice, which you have made, and are responsible for the outcomes thereof.
How do you feel about the third option? If I vote for a third party, knowing they won’t win in a rigged system, am I just as responsible as I am if I don’t pull the lever at all?
All I said still applies. What is the outcome of your choice? Is it achieving your goals? Is it leading to a better or worse outcome?
Sadly, the FPTP system doesn’t lend itself to reflecting the will of the people if more than 2 options are presented, and I haven’t heard of a credible independent candidate. And by credible, I mean having any real chance of winning.
If you had two very similar choices, I could see the argument of voting for a third party, but one of your candidates is literally promising a dictatorship. I’ve seen a lot of valid arguments of starting local and building up to statewide change if you want to effectively change the political landscape. It won’t be as fast, and it certainly won’t be easy, but it does appear to have a real chance to move things in the desired direction.
Have you ever read The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy by Douglass Adams? How long do we have to vote for the “right” lizard so the wrong lizard doesn’t get in? When do we get to vote for a human? And why is it that people like you continually tell me that I have to vote for genocide - that there’s no other choice, either genocide or fascist genocide? When do I get to choose? When is the literal future of democracy no longer on the line?
You ignored every question I asked and haven’t given any reason for how voting third party will achieve your goals. You can vote for whoever you like. There are more effective ways to have someone other than lizards to vote for, but thatbrequires work. Neither you not Adam’s have provided any real suggestions on how to fix that with anything more significant than a salve to your conscience.
My position is if you are aware of the situation you are already a part of the system. Whether you choose to pull the lever or not is still a choice, which you have made, and are responsible for the outcomes thereof.
How do you feel about the third option? If I vote for a third party, knowing they won’t win in a rigged system, am I just as responsible as I am if I don’t pull the lever at all?
All I said still applies. What is the outcome of your choice? Is it achieving your goals? Is it leading to a better or worse outcome?
Sadly, the FPTP system doesn’t lend itself to reflecting the will of the people if more than 2 options are presented, and I haven’t heard of a credible independent candidate. And by credible, I mean having any real chance of winning.
If you had two very similar choices, I could see the argument of voting for a third party, but one of your candidates is literally promising a dictatorship. I’ve seen a lot of valid arguments of starting local and building up to statewide change if you want to effectively change the political landscape. It won’t be as fast, and it certainly won’t be easy, but it does appear to have a real chance to move things in the desired direction.
Have you ever read The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy by Douglass Adams? How long do we have to vote for the “right” lizard so the wrong lizard doesn’t get in? When do we get to vote for a human? And why is it that people like you continually tell me that I have to vote for genocide - that there’s no other choice, either genocide or fascist genocide? When do I get to choose? When is the literal future of democracy no longer on the line?
You ignored every question I asked and haven’t given any reason for how voting third party will achieve your goals. You can vote for whoever you like. There are more effective ways to have someone other than lizards to vote for, but thatbrequires work. Neither you not Adam’s have provided any real suggestions on how to fix that with anything more significant than a salve to your conscience.