• Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
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    New users probably shouldn’t be installing .debs, especially if they don’t know about terminal commands. I’ve seen so many fucked up systems from people treating Linux as Windows, as in installing everything by searching for stuff on their browser, downloading an installer and installing that.

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      In other words, you’ve seen fucked up systems because people treat their Linux system like literally every non-Linux system they’ve used.

      Which is a Linux problem, not a user problem.

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        No, it’s a user problem on both OS’s. Installing random shit from untrustworthy sources is a much more likely source of infection that a zero-day, network-based exploit, etc

        Not every OS allows you to simply click on a random installer/eventually (maybe enter a password) and get owned. IOS on phones doesn’t. Android requires you enable untrusted sources.

        It sounds like not including a GUI app by default to click-install random packages (outside the package manager) is the extra step for various Linux distros. That’s not a problem, that’s a good idea.

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          • Random shit
          • Untrustworthy

          So github is untrustworthy now.

          And again you’re arguing in favor of walled gardens. Fucking hypocritical imbeciles. Anything to keep your precious fucking OS free from criticism, right?

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            Github is untrustworthy, anyone can put anything on there. It is up to the end user to determine if a project is safe to use or not.

            The default repos for Debain on the other hand are filled only with software that has been checked by at least one competent person, making them inherently safe.

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              But I thought the open nature of open source meant it was safe because someone has checked all code everywhere!

              This shit has become tedious.

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                This shit has become tedious

                No kidding. Open source software is safe because it can come from a trusted source that can be checked by others. Not every open source project is checked but the default repos of Debian, for example, are checked and can be trusted.

                All closed source software, on the other hand, is untrustworthy because it can never be checked. This goes for the iOS and Android ecosystems as well. Despite their walled gardens the software is not open and can not be checked, which is why malicious software keeps making it’s way onto phones.

                Have you ever heard of malicious code in the Debian repos?

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                  Have you ever heard of malicious code in the Debian repos?

                  I think I heard so a few times, yes. Depends on what you define as “malicious” and which of the repos you’d call Debian repos. Is Debian only stable or is it unstable and testing or contrib or non-free aswell?