Just putting this up to contrast with this post and because Eli Valley is a great political cartoonist.

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        oh so there isn’t a genocide? the United States doesn’t have one of the most proportionally incarcerated populations in the world? our police didn’t drive a tank to a college campus?

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          So here is a Trump quote about from a few days ago about Israels war on Hamas:

          They’re losing the PR war. They’re losing it big. But they’ve got to finish what they started, and they’ve got to finish it fast, and we have to get on with life.

          So he actually wants Israel to speed up it’s military operation and win.

          As you can see, the US foreign policy position on Israel has absolutly nothing to do with with party or president. In fact, Trump is arguably more pro-Israel. He was also the one that moved the US embassy to Jerusalem, which was a big diplomatic “fuck you” for Palestinians.

          the United States doesn’t have one of the most proportionally incarcerated populations in the world? our police didn’t drive a tank to a college campus?

          Both of these have been true for decades and have nothing to do with Biden, just stupid whataboutism.

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              Yes. But I’m not sure why that is so weird. A progressive candiate would just lose so what’s the point?

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                  By doing what? Punching yourself in the face by not voting or voting for Trump? I’m not sure that’ll show them … or do anything good.

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                  Teach democratic leadership that the progressive vote is fairweather at best and that efforts are better spent courting centrist independents who actually show up and vote without having to be beaten over the head with a rhetorical crowbar to convince them to do literally the bare minimum civic duty.

                  FTFY

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                    As opposed to the loyal centrist vote that checks notes formed a fucking PAC to elect John McCain the last time the party didn’t give them everything they wanted.