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    Isn’t the crime with the highest economic impact by far wage theft? Maybe we could work on preventing that?

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      Yup white collar crime cost more than any other crime and has far reaching effects on society. Nearly all blue collar crime (minus crimes of passion) are done for survival and is directly linked to poverty.

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      They want a system, in which the rules don’t apply to them but are protected by them, and everyone else is bound by the same rules but not protected by them. Trump already trying to exploit it to the fullest.

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    Right off the bat, this statement alludes to “poor == unhoused and unfed”, which is propaganda at best. Feeding the hungry and sheltering the houseless is a civic duty. Full stop. Greatly decreasing crime rates is a symptom of neither, however, and to imply otherwise is shamefully misinformed.

    The parasitic bourgeoisie steal more from us all in a single day than we do from them, by more than an order of magnitude. Oh, and unless you’re pulling down /upper/ six or seven figures? You’re “poor” too, so drop the manufactured perspective; none of us are “momentarily embarrassed millionaires”.

    Join us. To them, you’re livestock.

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      weird comment cuz you obviously agree with the rhetorical goals of the post but forcibly frame yourself as attacking it, and do so with incredible agression?

      the internet is so negative sometimes. ur getting pissed off at a post with a bunch of care bears. make your own post if this one riles u up so bad lol.

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    Well, technically we are willing to house and feed the poor for free… As well as middle class and rich people… As long as they commit a crime first.

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    The people who are against helping the poor often complain that why should someone else get help when they are not getting help themselves. They see it as a handout, And that handouts are bad.

    Trying to explain long-term goals to that kind of person is not possible. It needs to be marketed differently. How could we market helping the poor in a way that makes it sound like an immediate gain for the people who are not poor?

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      Public services (e.g. libraries) are so far the most effective at getting people’s buy-in. Many countries even provide healthcare this way. Food is a bit trickier, but is done in schools, and something like a public cafeteria seems tenable. Housing would be extremely difficult due to security concerns; the current housing shortage would also prevent this.

      In general Universal Basic Income (UBI) still has the advantage that everyone gets it, so it doesn’t feel “unfair” (and people generally support getting money for themselves). It far more flexible than public services, but suffers from people stressing about the rich getting it.

      Carbon Tax & Dividend has that advantage and even further justification. Tax polluters, and then give that money back to everyone equally (after all, everyone is hurt equally by pollution).

      A similar argument could be made for nonrenewable resources and Land Value Tax (LVT) - the land belongs to everyone, and everyone deserves to benefit from its use.

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        Carbon Tax & Dividend

        bahahahahah

        Canada has done this and Conservatives are livid. Our federal government has wasted so much time and energy trying to communicate how most people (80% is the official figure) come out ahead. We have Conservative premiers full on revolting against the tax with one province actually refusing to pay the owed amount.

        I’m really trying to stay positive and not “us vs them” with Conservatives, but it’s increasingly frustrating. Facts truly do not seem to matter to them, they hear the price of gas is going up 3 cents and their conclusion is that our PM is greedy and somehow hoarding this money for his own gain. The fact that the money goes back to them is irrelevant.

        We are on the path to electing a populist conservative who is openly anti-trans, it’s fucking depressing. Oh and he’s also opposed to a change in how capital gains are taxed that effects 0.13% of the richest Canadians a year, but somehow he’s “for the people”. Fuck everything.

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      sounds like you out of all of us have the most reasonable opportunity to do just that :p

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    I’m going to homeless soon. Kinda by choice… Lol because fuck this life. I’m done with this ride.

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    Better get to work buttercup, those child molesters in your hood would love to live with you. How about those people who like to beat and harass LGBT? I’m pretty sure the rapists and killers just want a condo and a couple quesadillas and they will leave their old life behind.

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              Yes? Prevent it from happening in the first place, give them adequate support before offenses are committed, provide counseling and therapy, it doesn’t mean they will necessarily fully integrate into the rest of society. And how exactly am I being protected if they are currently out in the streets?

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                  Most crimes are due to lack of support. I can’t say that I have been to prison or jail, and I haven’t spoken to a correctional officer, I suggest you find different haunts then, and look for the inherent good. Watch Mr Roger’s neighborhood. It will blow the sparkles and sunshine right into your brain, sweetie 😘😘.

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              You don’t seem that bright tbh. Def cruel. You seem to have the inside knowledge of every homeless person and their context that exists somehow? And none are victims, all are just criminals? You do realize there are homeless children as well?

              This buttercup/sweetie is just selling fear.

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              Typical propagandized, violent and bloodthirsty classist American. You make me proud, bootlicker.

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      Ye been watching too much Fox News buttercup, maybe even a red cap layin’ about? You are devoid of facts, just full on condescension (sweetie/buttercup) and fear mongering which doesn’t even make sense. The very fact that homelessness is rising, not just in America, is not registering. You might think they’re growing them in a lab somewhere?