• NateNate60@lemmy.ml
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    The legal grounds: The oil was shipped by a US company in violation of US law. American companies can’t do business with an organisation that the US government has designated as a terrorist organisation. Thus American authorities siezed the ship and its cargo.

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          Yes. And were fined. But that’s perfunctory so that they can make more money smuggling oil. The sanctions are solely enforced by the U.S., without consent of the UN.

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            Yes.

            Your own link argues against you:

            "But the Suez Rajan case was unique at the time of the transfer because it was owned by the Los Angeles-based private equity firm Oaktree Capital Management. "

            At the time the ship was being used for moving US sanctioned oil, it was own by a US company. That supports @NateNate60@lemmy.ml 's statements.

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              That is correct and why they could prosecute this case. But they have been seizing oil since 2019. And even if all those tankers were partially owned by US companies, it still doesn’t change the fact that this amounts to piracy. Defending international injustice with legalese doesn’t absolve what this is. When China seizes our tankers because the parts were made in China, will you defend them?

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                And even if all those tankers were partially owned by US companies,

                If the tankers or company is operating in the US, then they are bound by US laws no matter where they are in the world. A company can’t benefit from the protection of the US government and laws at home only to go abroad to commit US crimes.

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                  Many countries can use that justification. Why are you defending an act that you’d condemn if it was done to America?

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    So…will they seize the companies assets and arrest the CEO for violating the sanctions?

    Because that’s how you stop this shit.

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        1 year ago

        The company is Greek.

        The ship was owned by a US company:

        "But the Suez Rajan case was unique at the time of the transfer because it was owned by the Los Angeles-based private equity firm Oaktree Capital Management. "

        source

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          Great. You got me on a technicality. So it’s okay for any country to steal oil from another if that tanker, or it’s propeller, was once owned by the thieving country?

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          Your justifying piracy. It’s okay when we do it. But not when they do. How magnanimous.

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    I’m gonna take a break while the bots and state department shills get their talking points worked out; so they can explain and justify how this is legal by international standards.

      • tryptaminev 🇵🇸 🇺🇦 🇪🇺@feddit.de
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        The US commited genocide in Iraq and helped genocide in Chile, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Cambodia…

        The US claiming to take a stand against genocide is laughable at best.

        It is completely cynical though, because the US still buys plenty of products that are made in chinese labor camps. It is crazy how much kool-aid americans drink and how deep they managed to put their heads up their own ass.

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          It is crazy how much kool-aid americans drink and how deep they managed to put their heads up their own ass.

          … You said in an article where a US ship willingly returned oil to a US dock because it was in violation of US trade sanctions. Could you please at least read up on the event before you decide to act high and mighty?

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        So countries aren’t sovereign now?

        Edit: I can’t find any info. What genocide?