• kreskin@lemmy.world
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      someguy3,

      I’m not a high paid politicial consultant, but maybe the DNC could stop running bad candidates with rightwing platforms?

      I dunno. maybe its simply a matter of getting Dick Cheney up on stage with democratic party candidates instead of liz cheney. Or dem candidates should vow to kill all the palestinians faster than the republicans do. People of similar intent can disagree on minor implementation details without fighting right?
      So DNC centrists and republicans should really come out of the closet and live your truth out in the open --and just become a single party. The republidems. And nothing will fundamentally change.

      The progressives can form their own party, and according to your philosophy, proceed to lose. What do you say, isnit it past time for DNC and GOP to merge and finally show the filthy progressives who is boss?

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        Boy that’s lot of messages from you. You must be hella mad. Yup, you are.

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          Its true, you do tend to set me off. Point taken.

          I think you have me outpaced though for messages and length on this thread.

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      I don’t blame non-voters, disenfranchised from the uni-party system. It is the job of the politicians to work for the people, not the other way around. The politicians act like they are a celebrity, and we should bend a knee and vote for their scraps. Give the non-voters something to vote for, and they will be back.

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          Voters are not your slaves. They owe you nothing. If you’re a politician and you can’t get people to support you, that’s on you. No, you can’t just point across the aisle. Someone else committing worse crimes doesn’t excuse yours.

          We have to stop falling for the extortionists. Corporate Democrats are extortionists, nothing more. They’re no different than a mobster that says, “nice house there, would be a shame if something happened to it.” That’s literally their strategy for winning elections - “well, I’m not going to do anything for you, but the other guy will be even worse!”

          Stop telling people they have a duty to vote for criminals and extortionists.

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            Hey I remember you, you’re the guy that just tried to pass off “Gore was going to invade Iraq!”.

            So, strawman fallacy. I did not say or suggest that voters are your slaves. What I said is that protest-non-voting is wholly and completely ineffectual at positive change. More of your hammering different things together I see.

            Corporate Democrats are extortionists,

            More nutso.

            Stop telling people they have a duty to vote for criminals and extortionists.

            More strawman. See above.

            criminals and extortionists.

            More nutso.

            I don’t think you read what I linked. Here you go:

            Dems deliver, but it’s always “n n not good enough” for certain people.

            Inb4 replies: The Dems need all 3 houses to pass anything. They’ve had that for, drumroll please, 4 years of the last 24 years. That’s 2 years under Obama and 2 under Biden. Go back further to include Bill Clinton and it’s 6 years of the last 32 years. Go further and it’s 6 years of the last 44 years. And you wonder why progress is slow?

            Ciao.

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              Corporate Dems getting a lock on Congress isn’t enough to get things passed. They always find a rotating villain to be the designated bad guy.

              But yeah, go ahead and throw names like “nutso” around, as your ilk continue to lose election after elections with your tired and geriatric strategy.

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      Muslim and Arab Americans in Dearborn who listened to Kamala promise to kill their brothers and sisters in Palestine and Lebanon with utmost lethality, and decided not to vote for her, are the reason for America’s burgeoning fascism. Thanks for the top analysis, chief.