I like this approach. “funny meme” aside, I think it is a good way of showing how much a certain language can affect how other people think and feel about a subject. Just read it THAT way and “being neurotypical” suddenly sounds like a disorder that isn’t fully compatible with the public, doesn’t it?

We live in a world that isn’t exactly kind to people on the spectrum. It is loud, flashy, hectic, overwhelming, unrewarding but you’re still expected to work like a cog in a machine, despite having fewer and fewer places where you’d actually “fit in” without grinding gears, and whenever there is some sort of public talk about that topic, it always, always sounds like the affected person is the problem and personally responsible for fixing themselves, when a no small part of “not fitting in” is due to society itself. Maybe a change in language is due to remove that stigma.

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      I mean, no, not really. What I said is still a part of what you proposed, just not specifically.

      Like you can’t suggest that everyone should jump off a high cliff without also suggesting that everyone should fall to the bottom. You can’t say “I said jump, not fall! You’re reading into my words beyond my intent!”

      Have you never encountered symbolism? Poetry? Is your favorite book “See Spot Run” because every statement is entirely literal with no interpretation needed?

      If you read the phrase “Upon seeing the knife in the strangers hand, she let out a scream.” would you not infer that “she” is afraid of the knife person, or would you sit there scratching your head wondering “why did she scream? I don’t understand, knives can be used for many purposes.”

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        What I said is still a part of what you proposed, just not specifically.

        Absolutely not. What you said had nothing to do with anything I said. I did not say we should “believe everything everyone says.” That’s not even a part of what I said.

        You then proceeded to:

        read into phrases past their actual meanings

        The alternative to “reading into phrases past their actual meanings” is not to “believe everything everyone says.” It’s simply not assuming someone intended to say something completely different than what they actually said, which is what you did.

        And the alternative to “expecting others to infer what you think based on subjective social rules” is to just say what you mean in the first place.

        See the conflict we’re having right now? We could have avoided this if you simply didn’t read into what I said past the actual meaning.

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          Ah I see the confusion. You said “reading into phrases past their actual meanings” but defined that as “assuming someone intended to say something completely different than what they actually said.” This is not, in fact. “reading into phrases past their actual meanings” and is, in fact, called “assuming someone is lying”. With that cleared up, I agree with you. People should definitely stop assuming others are lying without a good reason.

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            This is not, in fact. “reading into phrases past their actual meanings” and is, in fact, called “assuming someone is lying”.

            You just did it again!!

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              No, I didn’t! You have no idea what you’re even trying to say! I’m sorry but you’re just incorrect. At no point have I interpreted anything you’ve suggested to mean anything other than exactly that.

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                  Okay but should I interpret that comment literally like you suggest or should I “read into” it and determine you’re being sarcastic?

                  Weren’t you just saying people should “say exactly what they mean”?

                  Am I to interpret this as a sincere thank you, then? In which case. You’re quite welcome. You seemed very confused and I’m happy to have provided some clarity in this matter. I hope what you learned today will be helpful to you going forward.

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                    Ok, fine; you got me. I am now convinced. Nobody should ever say what they mean, and everyone should always assume everyone intends to say something completely different than what they actually said, in every situation. Also, sarcasm should be illegal. But even still, I didn’t need to hear your comment about how you are sexually attracted to animals. That seemed really out of place.