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“There’s no ambiguity about the data,” said Gavin Schmidt, a climatologist and the director of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies. “So really, it’s a question of attribution.”
Understanding what specific physical processes are behind these temperature records will help scientists improve their climate models and better predict temperatures in the future.
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My wife told me I was a doomer gloomer for not wanting to have kids due to climate uncertainty. I wanted to adopt instead.
I’m terrified of how the world will look over the next century for my 6 month old son.
You gave in, huh?
Is his name Max Rockatansky? If so he’ll be fine.
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Assuming you’re asking in good faith, the difference would be helping someone through this hell-hole that’s already here, and was disadvantaged at the start. As opposed to bringing someone in.
On top of that, having kids carries a massive carbon footprint. An adopted kid is already penciled in for that. I’d even wager a kid in the system would be more of a burden on carbon levels than one in a home.
…can’t tell if serious
Can’t be going and adopting kids all willy nilly, or else the adoption factories might ramp up production!
/s
Obviously he should just kill his adopted kid
The user is interpreting it as the OP wanted to not have kids because of climate uncertainty - did not want to raise a kid that would have to deal with the climate. So instead they adopted a kid to raise someone else’s kid in a world where they would have to deal with the climate.
I think OP is implying reduction of population but the comment kinda reads weird.
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What you doin milking your house?
His house has nipples?
Well i’m not a scientist (actually I am, but not a climate scientist), but im gunna take a wild flailing stab in the dark and suggest it’s maybe due to unfettered fossil fuel emissions.
Call me crazy but i think this might be what’s happening here.
we should really wait until we have more evidence before making such wild and unfounded statements
Pretty much every damn scientist nowadays, no matter their subject, seems to be a climate alarmist. I wonder what that could mean!
The only reasonable conclusion is a conspiracy, of course.
Nah, its the avacado toast.
What makes you so sure? As I see it, it could be that or illegals… maybe there is a synergistic relationship beetween the two?
Couldnt El Nino also be a contributing factor this year?
I was watching a video about past extinctions and they had a line where the oceans warmed two degrees over two million years, which was just about enough time for the ecosystems to evolve and adapt.
Look at what we’ve done in two hundred.
I went down a wiki rabbit hole a few weeks back, I found this graph very interesting https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Younger_Dryas
I would love to watch that, do you have a link or know where I can view this?
It was Kurzgesagt. Which was even more troubling since they are pretty reputable and they’ve done videos on the past trying to spur hopes on climate change. It seemed like a weird little factoid thrown into the mix rather than something directly related to current events.
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Humanity! Fuck yeah! Only in 200 years!
we’re all the frogs in god’s slowly boiling kettle.
Fortunately Exxon et al made STELLAR profits for damn near a century, it only cost us the one viable ecosystem we have in the entire known universe.
Tsk. Well profits have to be made, it’s capitalism. Can’t argue with that.
Good thing that I don’t have children to experience the fucking Apokalypse
I wouldnt worry about that, you and I are likely to experience it ourselves
This is why I didn’t have children
Woohoo! The beginning of the end!!
It doesn’t have to be. That’s entirely a human decision.
And humans wont do anything till its too late. As we always do.
Or even then. If it makes a penny less profit, it’s not going to happen.
Dont know why people are downvoting you. If it doesnt make money then it wont make change.
This isnt a fairytail. We arent promised a happy ending.
fairy tale
The majority of fairy tales (as told throughout human history) do not have happy endings. They were typically told to teach or reinforce hard social truths to prepare young people for the world. The “fairy-tale ending” is really an anachronism of modern, capitalistic story telling. Happy fantasy sells, and reinforces myths that benefit the elite, such as upward social and financial mobility (see Jane Austin, or every Disney movie), and the opportunity to become part of the landed gentry. The belief that everything always works out is itself a major piece of the capitalists propaganda machine, and because we fall for this, we keep making decisions against out best interests - We are all just one fateful encounter away from becoming rich or famous after all.
Reality isn’t fun to think about when you know nothing you do matters.
This has not always been the case, nor does it have to be now. I’m not what has to be done to get government officials on board, but if that doesn’t change soon the future looks pretty bleak.
I just can’t imagine our current political systems being capable of passing enough laws and regulations to turn it around. We have to have nearly the entire planet to agree on something?! Fuck.
That’s up to us. Get involved. Join an activist group, or a political campaign. Change policy. Show your neighbors how it’s possible to cut fossil fuels out of your life.
History is a big teacher, this issue is coming from the big boys of industry. Without major industry change it aint gonna happen, and worldwide as well. Even if the USA goes to 0 other countries can keep it going and offset any good we do.
Im not being a downer, im being real, its bad. Real bad.
If the USA goes to 0 (which is the most hilarious notion I’ve read all day) while other countries continue per the status quo, that still makes a difference. It helps to slow the increase, buying more time to actually solidify the numbers.
The thing is, while the consensus is that we need to do something, and that something needs to be done a lot, and fast, we don’t have any quantifiable numbers, just estimations that may be wildly underexaggerated.
Show your neighbors how it’s possible to cut fossil fuels out of your life
Corporations account for more than 80% of all emissions. Anything we do on a personal level is the proverbial drop in the ocean
Kinda sorta; they’re responsible for more than 80% of scope 3 emissions, which counts what happens when fossil fuels they extract and sell are subsequently burned. Individually, what you do is tiny, but as you show people around you that it’s possible to live without fossil fuels, it changes behavior in the aggregate.
When the vast majority of people are struggling just to survive on their ever weakening paychecks, where often even personal health becomes ignored, people dont have the economic, mental, or physical capability to do that. Or they may not even have the literally time available by working numerous jobs.
If it was going to happen, it would have already happened years/decades ago when scientists and environmentalists were already raising the alarms.
This is waiting until the entire kitchen in engulfed in flames before even considering turning off the oven. That option is long past. People are going to die. A lot of people. I cant stress how bad it is. A lot of fucking people are going to die, and many many more are going to suffer.
This is not true.
Sorry, but you’ll need to bring evidence for that kind of statement
you misspelled republiQans
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It’s entirely a billionaire decision.
Most of us humans have no power over this.
“I alone can’t change anything” is a hastily spoken excuse to shift responsibility onto others. But you are responsible for your life and your actions.
8 billion people on the planet understanding our future and changing the way we live is possible. Be a good example, because you can.Have you tried eating the rich by yourself? It really helps to have others hold em down.
climate change. climate change is happening.
It’s a little more complicated than that — El Niño, plus climate change, plus a cut in the amount of sulfur in the fuel burned by ships, plus something that’s not fully understood.
el nino is that bad because of climate change. i think this was predicted.
im curious about the sulfur thing, what changes?
There was an international treaty to cut the amount of sulfur in the bunker oil that the big ships burn. This is because the particulates it produces when burned kill people. They also reflected a bunch of sunlight, preventing it from warming the water.
El Niño is Spanish for the Niño
what’s happening?
Gettin hotter, innit?
First time?
Have fun while you can guys. Shits gonna get rough sooner than we all think
The beginning of the end, obviously. Dinosaurs 2.0 shall inherit the Earth since they’re fine with a shitton of CO2 in the atmosphere and warmer everything.
Meh humanity had a good run.
gg no re
Hurricane season gone be fun!
Who knows maybe we get to experience that also in Europe!
We will be a footnote in Earth’s history, a dead branch on the tree of evolution
Our species is like a nuclear reactor that went out of control.
I like that description
Quick, push the glaciers into the sea to cool it down again!
We fucked it… Plain and simple…
This is not a good answer. 10 years ago nobody cared and we kept doing what we always did. Now everyone realises humanity is facing a severe survival-problem in the near future and people instantly switch from denying it to accepting it. Please don’t! There are so many things one can do to fight our collapse. Apathy, catastrophism and cynicism gives power to the fossil destroyers. Don’t let those fuckers win, go solarpunk on them! Take your money to a green, ethical bank, go vegan, grow potatoes with your neighborhood, repair stuff and blow up a pipeline.
In a strange way, the global heating gives our lifes way more meaning than 30 years ago, when nothing mattered and we just kept buying toys until we die.Unfortunately, there is no peaceful solution. Conservative greed cannot be stopped by pacifism. Physical force will be required. Because we don’t talk openly about this, most normal people cannot see a way to win.
The rules that benefit conservative corporations are designed for us to follow all the way to our graves. One cannot step out of line without risking health, home or freedom. Protests are ineffective. Action is required - widespread action that would require coordination and communication.
We aren’t allowed to communicate openly about the specific actions needed, as those actions break the rules. So it is perfectly reasonable for people to recognize the impending loss, given the obviously ineffective options we are presented.
You lost me when you mentioned veganism. With you for the rest
The meat industry is a huge driver of climate change. If you don’t want to stop eating meat, you can also choose to eat meat from local farmers. It will probably mean eating less of it, because sustainably farmed meat is necessarily expensive.
Vegans unite. Downvoting me because I won’t change my diet you fucking losers. Haha.
I do eat locally produced meat and shop at farmers markets for the most part. I’m not going vegan.
Transport routes are very efficient, and for food, they are responsible for a maximum of 2% of CO2 emissions.
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Selfish and arrogant? Nice.
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Why?
I’m an omnivore who enjoys meat. I would hunt my food if it was an option to me. I eat meat with most meals. I’ve travelled and spent a chunk of time in places like India where I didn’t eat a lot of meat at all and lived on dal fry (lentils) and whatever else was commonly available. It was fine, but I’m not designed to live on salad, beans and tofu alone.
Thats not to say I’m blind to problems in the meat industry, I’m sure someone will mention methane or whatever else, plus there’s clearly a serious amount of waste, and a fuck-tonne of animal cruelty (the concept of breeding life for food is probably cruel, right?)… I don’t believe in battery farms or any of that. I’d prefer hundreds of self sufficient permaculture food farms, with a varied and healthy ecosystem instead of monoculture savaging the lands nutrients.
The problem is similar to oil. We know they are the largest polluters but we still need to drive to some job - public transport isn’t available/suitable for everyone, and electric vehicles aren’t cheap enough to the majority of people (batteries are creating its own problems with lithium mines among other things).
I have a problem with veganism as I feel its an extreme attitude anyway. Great if it works for you but its not a catch all diet. Vegetarianism is more realistic, but vegans are the worst representatives for veganism. I’ve never met one who wasn’t preachy and somewhat judgemental about it.
I’m all up for constructive debate about big issues. The problem is one of power. We as the people have the collective bargaining power to fix everything, to fight our governments honestly and constructively. yet year after year, election after election, there is an absolute lack of a real and correct public response beyond a few vocal outrages or violence/riots which doesn’t help… And what’s worse, is when you do get a good spokesman for a cause, you end up hating them for whatever reason. Half the time its from media bias, but even without that, hearing them passionately fight for something, people turn against them. They become annoying and the cause is lost. Governments are full of self serving snobs and can delay things long enough nothing happens. So we always just sit and wait.
I digress, right?! But its all the same collective issue/attitude and the scam on the public is the same trick every single time. We are kept on the breadline so we can’t afford to fight back. You or whomever is telling me to go vegan when thats really not the issue. Don’t even get me started on palm oil.
