“Making a political statement is worth not only having Trump for president for the next four years, but living under a Trump for the rest of my life or fighting another world war to escape it.”
“I’m so mad at the current president for doing genocide that I’m going to stand down and tacitly support his other opponent to do genocide instead.”
Nah this is backwards, Democrat voters need to get behind the left. If the left aligns with Democrats we continue to ratchet to the right. If everyone did what the left wants there is a way out. Either get behind the left or support the right either directly or indirectly, that’s the choice right now.
Democrats try to shame the left into supporting them, blame them for the failure, then call you a fascist because you didn’t vote for one. Fuck that, Democrats don’t have the high horse to say that from anymore except to each other. Democrats who support the left can do it by voting that way, otherwise they’re enabling the current system just as much as Trump supporters. The conditions that give us Trump don’t go away without a socialist project.
Any strategy that requires millions of dumb people to make wise decisions is simply not going to happen.
I see things this way
There is a small number of good people driven to make the world a better place, e.g. me and you and many of us on Lemmy
There is a tiny number of really bad people (e.g. psychopaths), these are your right wing leaders (gov’t, church, etc) and very rich people
There is a small number of people willing to kill others for a paycheck because they were ordered to do so (military, police, intelligence) or are sadists
A larger number of people that are mostly goodish but not wise and not motivated to improve anything for others – they just do their thing
About 35% dumb people that would not care one whit about politics – This is the main group where the future will be made
These numbers are pulled from my ass but get my point across.
The good people are already trying, but so many are convinced by propaganda from foreign dictators (somehow they clearly see American propaganda and are totally blind to that coming from dictators that claim to be communists) that the way to make things better is to kill a bunch of people and force everyone else to labor under the dictators instruction. We’ve seen the damage this can do before to society and to the environment.
The bad people are not going to turn good, they are the enemy.
The enforcement class will be an enemy as long as they are paid, remove the money and we just need to watch out for unorganized assholes and sadists
The goodish people can only be prodded to vote better, that is of limited utility in making the world better, but it can hold off fascism for a time
(I want to be clear, our current situation is bad, fascism is much worse, much much worse).
It’s the dumb people – the normal situation is they are not very powerful or organized. What’s changed in recent years is that this group has been activated – they’ve been turned into an idiot army serving the tiny number of very bad people. ( I think Steve Bannon and Roger Stone were key here)
This means, they way to get out of our quagmire is to deactivate the idiot army, and they use leftist tactics to push things in the right direction outside of electoral politics.
Meanwhile back in reality Trump was the first President in decades to not start a new war. The left keeps promoting the idea that Trump will be so much worse than Biden because he’ll do the things Biden is already doing. Trump was a great President and he should win again. The left made these same claims the first time with Trump and none of it materialized except in the deranged fevered nightmares of the left. I can still remember the media saying Trump can’t be trusted with the nuclear codes and he was going to start WW3 with Russia. The left projects their own desires onto their opponents then carries them out under the cover of the Jewish media.
Trump assassinated an Iranian general in a third country. Fuck off with this “didn’t start a war” shit. The only reason there wasn’t a war is they didn’t push back.
His dipshit son in law tried to weaponize COVID against blue states because he was too dumb to realize that infectious diseases don’t care about political affiliation.
Then he had his supporters try to overthrow a free and fair election.
Trump should die in prison. The sooner the better.
He did so because said general had attacked US assets in Iraq if I remember right. They couldn’t push back because no country can challenge the US.
No clue what you’re talking about with COVID. Blue states certainly screwed over their children though all on their own. Most leftists have embraced having children as a bad thing though so they don’t really care.
No one tried to overthrow an election. Also there is no free and fair election happening in the US or we wouldn’t see Biden vs Trump. It’s laughable when people try to say the election isn’t rigged so choose your favorite senile geriatric selected by the powers that be. I’m sure this is who the people wanted to choose between and it has nothing to do with scam political parties and billionaire controlled media.
Leftists who won’t vote are saying:
“Making a political statement is worth not only having Trump for president for the next four years, but living under a Trump for the rest of my life or fighting another world war to escape it.”
“I’m so mad at the current president for doing genocide that I’m going to stand down and tacitly support his other opponent to do genocide instead.”
Nah this is backwards, Democrat voters need to get behind the left. If the left aligns with Democrats we continue to ratchet to the right. If everyone did what the left wants there is a way out. Either get behind the left or support the right either directly or indirectly, that’s the choice right now.
Democrats try to shame the left into supporting them, blame them for the failure, then call you a fascist because you didn’t vote for one. Fuck that, Democrats don’t have the high horse to say that from anymore except to each other. Democrats who support the left can do it by voting that way, otherwise they’re enabling the current system just as much as Trump supporters. The conditions that give us Trump don’t go away without a socialist project.
Any strategy that requires millions of dumb people to make wise decisions is simply not going to happen.
I see things this way
There is a small number of good people driven to make the world a better place, e.g. me and you and many of us on Lemmy
There is a tiny number of really bad people (e.g. psychopaths), these are your right wing leaders (gov’t, church, etc) and very rich people
There is a small number of people willing to kill others for a paycheck because they were ordered to do so (military, police, intelligence) or are sadists
A larger number of people that are mostly goodish but not wise and not motivated to improve anything for others – they just do their thing
About 35% dumb people that would not care one whit about politics – This is the main group where the future will be made
These numbers are pulled from my ass but get my point across.
The good people are already trying, but so many are convinced by propaganda from foreign dictators (somehow they clearly see American propaganda and are totally blind to that coming from dictators that claim to be communists) that the way to make things better is to kill a bunch of people and force everyone else to labor under the dictators instruction. We’ve seen the damage this can do before to society and to the environment.
The bad people are not going to turn good, they are the enemy.
The enforcement class will be an enemy as long as they are paid, remove the money and we just need to watch out for unorganized assholes and sadists
The goodish people can only be prodded to vote better, that is of limited utility in making the world better, but it can hold off fascism for a time (I want to be clear, our current situation is bad, fascism is much worse, much much worse).
It’s the dumb people – the normal situation is they are not very powerful or organized. What’s changed in recent years is that this group has been activated – they’ve been turned into an idiot army serving the tiny number of very bad people. ( I think Steve Bannon and Roger Stone were key here)
This means, they way to get out of our quagmire is to deactivate the idiot army, and they use leftist tactics to push things in the right direction outside of electoral politics.
Meanwhile back in reality Trump was the first President in decades to not start a new war. The left keeps promoting the idea that Trump will be so much worse than Biden because he’ll do the things Biden is already doing. Trump was a great President and he should win again. The left made these same claims the first time with Trump and none of it materialized except in the deranged fevered nightmares of the left. I can still remember the media saying Trump can’t be trusted with the nuclear codes and he was going to start WW3 with Russia. The left projects their own desires onto their opponents then carries them out under the cover of the Jewish media.
Trump assassinated an Iranian general in a third country. Fuck off with this “didn’t start a war” shit. The only reason there wasn’t a war is they didn’t push back.
His dipshit son in law tried to weaponize COVID against blue states because he was too dumb to realize that infectious diseases don’t care about political affiliation.
Then he had his supporters try to overthrow a free and fair election.
Trump should die in prison. The sooner the better.
He did so because said general had attacked US assets in Iraq if I remember right. They couldn’t push back because no country can challenge the US.
No clue what you’re talking about with COVID. Blue states certainly screwed over their children though all on their own. Most leftists have embraced having children as a bad thing though so they don’t really care.
No one tried to overthrow an election. Also there is no free and fair election happening in the US or we wouldn’t see Biden vs Trump. It’s laughable when people try to say the election isn’t rigged so choose your favorite senile geriatric selected by the powers that be. I’m sure this is who the people wanted to choose between and it has nothing to do with scam political parties and billionaire controlled media.
The mysteries of your brain would make a fascinating documentary.