Quietly installing? Heck, I keep getting notifications asking me to try out Copilot’s functions on my PC. I finally turned off all notifications about it today.
I just did a fresh install on someone’s computer and it was my first experience with 11. Nothing about that OS is quiet. Copilot auto started with a huge side panel after uninstalling it 3 fuckin times. Everything i removed from the suggested apps came right back after a restart/install. Every setting had a nag popup asking if i was sure or wanted to try Xxx. I disabled shit with powershell commands and an update later it was all back.
I had no idea it was that bad. None.
Windows 10 will be my last. It’s been a heck of a ride but it’s Linux now…
I saw that shit a single time before I shut it down. You have far more patience than I.
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They don’t need an AI to spy, they literally have full control of the OS. It’s just your regular everyday vertically integrated forced advertising garbage.
‘AI’ stands for ‘Advertising Injection’ in this case (and probably most cases tbh)
Seems pretty clear to me even they use my data and when and I didn’t have to use it 🤷♂️. As if MS needed those and couldn’t just keylog you.
I’m not too worried
My parents told me about a time when people were scared they would get spied on if they had a phone in the house. And this it talking about a rotary land line…
Then some time after I started working people were scared that nfc credit card tapping was going to somehow steal all their information.
Now people clearly want to be spied on considering the purchasing choices they make.
My parents told me about a time when people were scared they would get spied on if they had a phone in the house. And this it talking about a rotary land line…
For the record, old phone lines were always connected. You’d pick up the receiver and just ask the operator to connect you to a line, no pressing buttons or turning a dial or anything. Sometimes you could pick up the receiver and hear phone conversations your neighbors are having because a neighborhood might all be connected through the same switchboard. It was super easy to eavesdrop on your neighbors through the phones.
Rotary phones gave you an independent line, and allowed you to manually connect to another line instead of asking an operator to do it for you, but the mentality stuck for a while. Some people continued to be paranoid that someone might be listening to them through their phone.
People also beat their kids then. Sage wisdom.
I couldn’t care less about companies having data to make my products better. You should also understand how pots worked before dedicated switching and actually be able to hear your neighbors conversations over the shared line. It’s hardly the same thing.
On my work PC the Copilot icon shows up and disappears on a whim. It’s weird…
Probably the admins chasing it around and disabling it.
We’ve disabled it via policy at work at least 3 separate times now, Microsoft finds some new smart way it should work and then you need another policy to block it…
This is so annoying that it’s almost funny.
Microsoft is using copilot to find more intrusive ways to install copilot.
It’s called reinforcement learning.
As another admin, can confirm. I hate it here.
I’ve got a Windows Partition that I need for a few proprietary programmes, and manged to get an Enterprise Edition license key for it. Definitely against their license agreement, so they could take it away if they ever felt the desire to, but holy shit, it’s so much nicer. Group Policy Editor isn’t the most uncluttered piece of software, but under Enterprise you can still use it to deactivate pretty much all annoying things Win11 does.
I just use AltasOS when I need Windows. It’s open-source and not only debloats Windows but also applies some tweaks to improve performance.
The de facto truth is that while Windows is installed, it’s not your PC, it’s theirs. Of course they’re going to add advertising. Of course they’re going to spy. Of course they’re going to use Copilot as a mechanism to do that.
If you don’t want that, your options are basically limited to installing an OS that doesn’t do that shit, or voting for parties that care about consumer rights, if one exists where you live, and praying they can do something about it.
Every windows pc is a threat to humankind
Hyperbole like this just harms adoption of Linux.
Maybe better: Proprietary software is a threat to some aspects of mankind’s life in free society.
That’s a fair take (:
Linux desktop is easier to use too 🤣
So much easier to use! To get my linux laptop to connect to a Windows network share yesterday, I only had to install three tools, after adding their repositories, and update their dependencies, entirely through keyboard on the command line! Super user-friendly!!
Windows network share
I think I am starting to see the source of your problems.
What? Reality?
Yes, reality forcing to use one thing.
But that’s not an argument agains friendliness.
IIRC in YaST it was like three clicks.
Year of the Linux desktop, any year now.
