“There’s this wild disconnect between what people are experiencing and what economists are experiencing,” says Nikki Cimino, a recruiter in Denver.

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    Exactly that. On average the economy is doing fine but it’s skewed very heavily towards the top and nothing much for the 90%. The median income is actually decreasing.

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        I would LOVE to see a source on this, but I have a feeling I already know where it is coming from.

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            I think the wording in your original comment is pretty misguided. Nowhere does it say the poor are “doing better than” the wealthy. They just had the strongest short-term wage growth since covid. This does not equate to prosperity. Perhaps it is you that has the restrictive social circle.

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              The wording was obvious. If someone though OP meant “the bottom 10% can afford more yachts than the wealthy” that’s a logic problem.

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                I disagree. The connotation and literal meaning of the phrase “doing better than”, combined with the comment on social circles indicates that they’re trying to suggest the poor are somehow doing well, whatever that means.

                That’s how I read it, anyway. And I think that’s why they’re getting down voted as well.

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                  they’re trying to suggest the poor are somehow doing well, whatever that means.

                  Which is nonsensical, which should suggest you’re misinterpreting.

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                    Proportionally, having a penny is infinitely more than having nothing, but I still can’t buy shit with a penny.

                    Take your “proportionately” logic and shove it. Shit is bad. And it’s bad because capitalism has consolidated wealth at the top. Capitalism has run its course and has failed. It’s time to move on.

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              The wording is obvious to anyone with a brain. So given that this is lemmy, you’re absolutely right and I’ll dumb it down. My apologies.

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                I think it’s unfortunate that you’re being so hostile. It was an interesting point and very good sources that you brought to the discussion. But you’ve decided to play the "you’re all ‘autists’ " card.

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                  It was an interesting point and very good sources that you brought to the discussion.

                  The fact that this doesn’t matter is why I’m being hostile. Bunch of idiots in here. If you’re interested in discussing it I’m absolutely open to that. It’s the ones who fail basic reading comprehension that have my scorn.

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        Yes, bottom 10% are doing better and the top 10%. That means the middle is getting hollowed out and the whole thing turns into a very divided society. That’s not a good thing.

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          It’s not a good thing, but it’s better than the blatant “rich get richer, everyone else gets fucked” economy we’ve had for the past few decades.

          And doesn’t it make sense that we improve the situation of the poorest first?

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            blatant “rich get richer, everyone else gets fucked”

            and now you have a rich get richer, almost everyone else gets fucked economy. Yay, progress.

            Looking at history, it feels more like an attempt to make sure the poorest don’t fall into the “nothing left to lose” category that can cause so much trouble.

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              Looking at history, it feels more like an attempt to make sure the poorest don’t fall into the “nothing left to lose” category that can cause so much trouble.

              That’s because it is. That’s the point of welfare, give the poorest something to lose and they won’t revolt. Even if it’s the most meager, unfair, dehumanizing scraps.

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              Oh no, what a…terrible…thing…?

              and now you have a rich get richer, almost everyone else gets fucked economy. Yay, progress.

              Yes. Things were more bad, and now they are less bad. Vote in more Democrats, and things will continue to get less bad. Eventually, things will be good. That’s how progress works.