Mass politics is more about actual political involvement like regular party meetings, party social clubs, and enrolling your children in something like the Hitler Youth. Again, modeled after the socialist parties having social organizations, sports clubs, theater troupes, etc. Having people regularly interact with the party and can be called out for mass action with a days notice. It isn’t just a double digit percentage of people vote for the party.
The fascist paramilitaries are outside of the government and independently, only answerable to the party. Not that the party takes over the state and can make the state apparatuses do what the party wants.
Trump gets MAGA fuckers out to events in droves, they lack traditional organization (to the extent hijacked republican organization lacks a mass character) but they have significant social media support, which seems to make up for it. we can’t use 1920s definitions for social relevancy in a world where legit communist parties have less in-person participation than they had back then.
the devotion to the idea the paras must come from out of the state is myopic. a) fascist movements are not democratic so there is no great difference between things being under ‘party’ rule and the direction of a head of state. b) fascist paras were incorporated into the state when they take power c) not all fascists followed this exact model.
re: c) it is within your right to deny Franco was a fascist but i’m not going to take anybody like that seriously. nobody but hitler and mussoloni were fascist is a useless analysis
So the Czar was fascist? King Leopold of Belgium was fascist? King Friedrich the Great was fascist?
It really does matter for circumventing or over-ruling the constitutional order that you have another “card” to play that your paramilitary is independently answerable to you and not just because your guy is currently head of state.
i didn’t say police = fascism i critiqued using nonstate paramilitaries as a definitional point of fascism. a recurring point of ICE using unmarked personnel is to grant carte blanche to nonstate actors–what a comfort it will be to be black bagged by a neonazi with the reassurance it isnt fascism since a three-letter agency did it first
Mass politics is more about actual political involvement like regular party meetings, party social clubs, and enrolling your children in something like the Hitler Youth. Again, modeled after the socialist parties having social organizations, sports clubs, theater troupes, etc. Having people regularly interact with the party and can be called out for mass action with a days notice. It isn’t just a double digit percentage of people vote for the party.
The fascist paramilitaries are outside of the government and independently, only answerable to the party. Not that the party takes over the state and can make the state apparatuses do what the party wants.
Trump gets MAGA fuckers out to events in droves, they lack traditional organization (to the extent hijacked republican organization lacks a mass character) but they have significant social media support, which seems to make up for it. we can’t use 1920s definitions for social relevancy in a world where legit communist parties have less in-person participation than they had back then.
the devotion to the idea the paras must come from out of the state is myopic. a) fascist movements are not democratic so there is no great difference between things being under ‘party’ rule and the direction of a head of state. b) fascist paras were incorporated into the state when they take power c) not all fascists followed this exact model.
re: c) it is within your right to deny Franco was a fascist but i’m not going to take anybody like that seriously. nobody but hitler and mussoloni were fascist is a useless analysis
So the Czar was fascist? King Leopold of Belgium was fascist? King Friedrich the Great was fascist?
It really does matter for circumventing or over-ruling the constitutional order that you have another “card” to play that your paramilitary is independently answerable to you and not just because your guy is currently head of state.
i didn’t say police = fascism i critiqued using nonstate paramilitaries as a definitional point of fascism. a recurring point of ICE using unmarked personnel is to grant carte blanche to nonstate actors–what a comfort it will be to be black bagged by a neonazi with the reassurance it isnt fascism since a three-letter agency did it first