Why this renewed assault? “Obamacare Sucks!!!” declared the former and possibly future president. For those offended by the language, these are Trump’s own words, and I think I owe it to my readers to report what he actually said, not sanitize it. Trump also promised to provide “MUCH BETTER HEALTHCARE” without offering any specifics.

So let’s discuss substance here. Does Obamacare, in fact, suck? And can we believe Trump’s promise to offer something much better?

  • jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
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    10 months ago

    Because it doesn’t have his name on it. He’s made a career of slapping his name on things other people created.

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      I remember him doing everything in his power to not have his name attached to the proposed ACA replacement, which is really saying something

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    Donald Trump has an inferiority complex to Obama and I’d wager its emboldened by his racism. This was kind of a big feature of his presidency, he showed the desire and capacity to un-obama everything he could.

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    The GOP has been talking ‘repeal and replace’ the ACA since the day it was passed. Over a decade and they are still trying to come up with a better plan.

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      Which they can’t, because it’s already the most conservative plan that had any chance of working. It doesn’t even work well, it just had some kind of chance.

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        Apparently, Obama himself told Trump that he, Obama, would not call Trump out if he decided to label it ‘Trumpcare.’ All Donnie had to do was change a few lines in the ACA and then declare victory! He could have plastered his face all over the site and made plenty of his voters happy. No one hates Trump’s voters more than Trump.

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    Trump, and Republicans in general, love destroying anything Obama did or cares about.

    Remember though that Trump often says things just because they make his crowds cheer. Also, although he had almost 5 years he never even managed to release an outline of a plan, though I do think they are preparing much more for a second term.

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    1. The ACA does suck, but it sucks less than pre-existing conditions
    2. Trumps record with NAFTA is probably a good template. Made the deal sweeter for tech bro companies and as part of the deal settled on very narrow improvement in labor standards because canada insisted on it.
    3. We can probably expect he would rename the ACA into like trumpcare or something and add some boondoggles for insurers. Maybe dismantle medicare.
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      If he were to get reelected, Congress should pass a bill renaming Obamacare to Trumpcare before Inauguration Day. It’s so stupid it might just work.

      Hopefully instead he’s just grumbling about the world in jail by then, but we’ll see.

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    Like everything, he dislikes Obama a lot. He needs to blow up something kind of good. Then, “replace” it with something better that is always 2 weeks out from sharing. I’m pretty sure it’ll be called “Trump Cares, He Really Doesn’t Care”

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    I don’t think we have to over analyze it. He tried to repeal it in his last term, and his opinion hasn’t changed even though he failed the first time.

    No, he doesn’t have a plan for an alternative and he never did.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Thursday’s report on consumer spending showed the Federal Reserve’s preferred measure of underlying inflation getting close to its 2 percent target.)

    Nonetheless, over the past few days, Trump has declared that if he returns to the White House, he’ll once again seek to do away with the Affordable Care Act, the reform that has produced a significant decline in the number of Americans without health insurance.

    The main point in Obamacare’s favor is simply the fact that the number of uninsured Americans fell sharply after the law went into effect.

    We’re still well short of the more or less universal coverage provided by every other advanced country, and the health insurance some Americans have remains inadequate, but the gap has narrowed a lot.

    Before Obamacare, Americans with preexisting medical conditions who weren’t lucky enough to get coverage through their employers were in dire straits: Insurers either wouldn’t cover them at all or would charge exorbitant premiums.

    is tricky, in part because the law, while offering extensive subsidies, also included many measures aimed at reducing health costs.


    The original article contains 880 words, the summary contains 176 words. Saved 80%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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    Because he never gave us a health care plan and knowing Obama did it (using a blueprint from his other enemy, Mitt Romney) makes his pee-pee feel small.

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    Same reason he wants a 1980s style trade war against Japan. He doesn’t think much about issues, so once he decides a soundbite is a good one, he’ll use it for decades.

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    anything would be better healthcare. other than the 1 piece of legislation forcing insurance companies to insure sick people, ‘obamacare’ is a love letter to insurance companies.

    fucking insurance is not fucking healthcare

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      We could go back to not insuring people for pre-existing conditions. Obamacare isn’t the be all end all of healthcare, and it could certainly be better, but it’s not getting better under Trump.

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        If it was up to insurance companies, they’d classify “being born” as a pre-existing condition. That parameter is just there to protect their assets from the “greedy” sick people who file claims, and they’ll push that line of what is and isn’t covered as far back as they can. Don’t give them the line to move.

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      While I agree with you I’m many ways, the fact is my kid with lifelong genetic disorder has had two major surgeries paid for by marketplace insurance with no trouble at all and without pages and pages of medical history we used to have to fill out every time we changed jobs or renewed, which insurance company’s could and often did use not only to avoid paying for pre existing things, but also to try to deny any claim or even kick people off insurance for filling out the form wrong.

      That one piece was hard won and worth a lot in my opinion, and I don’t trust Trump to mess with it. The guy is gonna be bankrupt, why does anyone think he’ll be doing anything other than selling the country for cash?

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      Obama called it a ‘starter house.’ Remember, Obama had both Houses in 2009-2010 and the ACA barely squeaked through.

      Conservatives have been poisoning the well on healthcare longer than you’ve been alive.

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      Insurance is not healthcare. But we live in late stage capitalism, and without insurance there is no access to healthcare at all. Obamacare took care of some of the more egregious problems we were dealing with, but it was clearly not the final solution.

      So who thinks that Trump, or indeed any Republican can be trusted to come up with anything better?